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fred ! thanks for that much help. we use a win machine, i think 98. but i am just listen to the stream too here. the guy who test it sits at his flat with a dsl... we broughtcast then on tuersday. 23:00 o clock. did you get any video/audio last night. i think we shut down all at nearly 12:00 i. >Surely sendmail reeled when thusly spake istari: >> >> well... telenautik tests on: pnm://real.musicaliens.de/live/garage.rm >> >> today ! >> >> istari. >> > >A-HA ! > >apparently "pnm" is an old proprietary protocol of Real Networks, and >browsers can't speak it. RTSP rules NOWADAYS ! BUT you can make a >browser talk PNM by using a RAM file that points to the PNM stream. > >(PNM is also an image format, which only makes things even more confusing.) > > >Istari, if this works, you owe me a beer ! > >what kind of machines are you _currently_ >reading this PNM stream on ? Macs ? > > >"This necessity of creating two files for every sound you want >to play -- a metafile and a sound data file -- is an annoyance >of invoking RealPlayer directly from HTML." > > >http://www.lll.uiuc.edu/hum382/content/URLs/URLprotocols.html > > PNM = "Progressive Networks Media" Makes connection with > a RealServer server which sends out streaming audio/video > >http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/html/guide_upload.html > > Netscape or IE just doesn't know what to do with the "pnm" > protocol or the newer "RTSP" protocol. RTSP is the open, > standards-based control protocol RealServer G2 uses to > stream clips to RealPlayer G2 or any RTP-based client. > PNM is the older proprietary protocol RealServer G2 > supports for backwards compatibility with RealSystem > 3.0 through 5.0. > > [ RTSP is RFC 2326 at www.ietf.org ] > >========================== > >the FIX > >========================== > >http://www.banffcentre.ab.ca/Aboriginal_Arts/sleepingbuffalo/about.htm > > Creating Links To RealAudio Files > > [..] > > After your .ra files are in a htdocs directory, you need to > create a pointer file (.ram) to point to a specific .ra file, > and add a link to your web page that points to the .ram file. > Here's what you need to do: > > 1. Use a text editor such as pico to create a .ram file. > > 2. Enter a line that refers to the URL of the .ra file, > using pnm (the RealAudio server protocol) rather than http. > For example, if you have a sound file called example.ra in > the /usr/local/http/htdocs/sounds directory, you would enter > pnm://ils.unc.edu/sounds/example.ra > > 3.Save the .ram file > > 4. Create a link on your web page that refers to the example.ram > file. > > That's all you need to do. The .ram file can contain multiple > lines that refer to different .ra files, so you could, for > instance, play example.ra, example2.ra, example3.ra sequentially > from the same link. > >http://help.mindspring.com/docs/009/wh_realmedia/wh_realmedia.php3 > > Adding RealMedia > > [..] > > 3. Use a text editor like Notepad or SimpleText to create a > text file filename.ram containing the following 2 lines: > > pnm://realaudio2.mindspring.com/xx/filename > rtsp://realaudio2.mindspring.com/xx/filename > > In these examples, filename is the name of your RealMedia file > ending with .ra or .rm. > > 4. Upload your .ram file somewhere in the xx directory. > Be sure to upload your file as ascii > > 5. Create a link to the metafile (the .ram file) on your > web page as: > <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com/whatever.ram";>Listen!</a> > >http://www.lll.uiuc.edu/hum382/content/realAudio/realAudio.html > > The protocol for each sound file specification must be pnm > (Progressive Networks Media): Progressive Networks Corporation > is the company which developed and which markets RealAudio. > It refers to the streaming audio format which is proprietary > to Progressive Networks). A single media specification has > the form shown in this example: > > > pnm://pc155.lang.uiuc.edu/myFolder/sampleSound.ra?start="2:13".5&end="5:41.9" > > Explanation: > > pnm:// The protocol, "progressive networks media". > > pc155.lang.uiuc.edu The domain name, just as in an ordinary URL > > myFolder/sampleSound.ra The RA sound file path, including the file > name, which must have the extension ".ra" > > ?start="2:13.5"&end="5:41.9" An optional start and end time that > defines a sound clip within the sound file. The question > mark and ampersand must be present, and there must not > spaces present anywhere in the string.This is actually a > standard URL search string, employing the attribute=value > syntax very commonly used to package information into a > search string. > > IMPORTANT: the ".ram" and ".rpm" metafiles are treated as HTTP > files, and must be placed in a folder which is accessible by a > WWW server -- that is, they go in with all your other HTML pages. > The ".ra" and ".rm" pages, on the contrary, must be placed on a > machine which is running a REALAUDIO server, and in a folder > accessible by that server. (Actually, the ".ra" files can be on > a different machine as long as the RealAudio server can access > them over the network.) This necessity of creating two files for > every sound you want to play -- a metafile and a sound data file > -- is an annoyance of invoking RealPlayer directly from HTML. > > > >I hope this helps ! > >fred
