potiuk commented on PR #911:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow-site/pull/911#issuecomment-1862454072

   I am not sure if we want to put Slack as first and foremost in the 
community. While devlist is much harder to join and less popular, this is the 
only official and "authoritative" place where things get discussed and agreed 
to  - and (so far) this is the only place that the ASF projects are supposed to 
make decisions and where important things and announcements happen 
   
   "If it did not happen on the devlist, it did not happen"
   
   Slack is much more casual of course and where things are happening as well, 
but  I would even say GitHub discussions, issues and PRs is where much more 
"community" things happen. It's much more akin to the "devlist" - where smaller 
decisions are made in PRs and where issues and discussions about potential 
future features or current problems happen.
   
   The problem with Slack is that it is ephemeral and with much more 
"synchronous" expectations and pressures (i.e. discussions basicaly disappear 
when not answered synchronously  - no-one will generall look back at the past 
discussions and questions after they move out behind the edge of your screen).  
   
   Both devlist and github are mostly asynchronous in nature - and asynchronous 
communication is very important in ASF communities.
   
   I am not sure putting Slack as first thing there is a good idea because of 
that. I am not sure if I have a very constructive approach how to do it 
differently.
   
   Maybe an idea we should split this tab into two - signalling that we have 
things which is mostly for users seeking for help and troubleshooting (with 
slack first and foremost followed by github issues and discussions and ending 
at [email protected]) and another tab where we have a different set of 
links for "creators" - i.e. devlist, github PRs, github issues, github 
discussions. There is significant overlap of both of course, but maybe we 
should recognise the fact that "users" should have a different "hierarchy of 
needs" here than "creators" ?
   
   Even the ASF standard "dev@" vs. "users@" follows that pattern.
   
   Speaking of which @merobi-hub -> I think this one is a perfect candidate to 
start a devlist discussion about. I think, if you want this PR to proceed and 
get the right approach, the idea of changing navigation on our website is 
definitely not a decision any single or even few maintainers should take in a 
PR, this should be a discussion on devlist and I think you should start one and 
explain the motivations behind the change and what you think we are going to 
get by that.
   


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