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Kenneth Knowles updated BEAM-1283:
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    Labels: backward-incompatible  (was: )

> DoFn.Context.output spec for startBundle/finishBundle is a mess
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>                 Key: BEAM-1283
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-1283
>             Project: Beam
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: beam-model, sdk-java-core
>            Reporter: Kenneth Knowles
>            Assignee: Kenneth Knowles
>              Labels: backward-incompatible
>
> The spec is here in Javadoc: 
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/java/core/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/transforms/DoFn.java#L128
> "If invoked from {{@StartBundle}} or {{@FinishBundle}}, this will attempt to 
> use the {{WindowFn}} of the input {{PCollection}} to determine what windows 
> the element should be in, throwing an exception if the {{WindowFn}} attempts 
> to access any information about the input element. The output element will 
> have a timestamp of negative infinity."
> This is a collection of caveats that make this method not always technically 
> wrong, but quite a mess. Ideas that reasonable folks have suggested lately:
>  - The {{WindowFn}} cannot actually be applied because {{WindowFn}} is 
> allowed to see the element type. The spec just avoids this by limiting which 
> {{WindowFn}} can be used.
>  - There is no natural output timestamp, so it should always be provided. The 
> spec avoids this by specifying an arbitrary and fairly useless timestamp.
>  - If it is a merging {{WindowFn}} like sessions that has already been merged 
> then you'll just have a bogus proto window regardless of explicit timestamp 
> or not.
> The use cases for these methods are best addressed by state plus window 
> expiry callback, so we should revisit this spec and probably just wipe it.



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