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Matt Byrd commented on CASSANDRA-13569:
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Sure n.p [[email protected]]
Yes, so adding jitter in MIGRATION_DELAY_IN_MS could help when we're past:
{code:java}
| runtimeMXBean.getUptime() < MIGRATION_DELAY_IN_MS)
{code}
However it doesn't help on startup.
Initially in trying to solve CASSANDRA-11748, I did also think about adding
random the delay for even this branch (where we've only been up a short amount
of time).
This just didn't seem that straightforward to do and also guarantee that we
wouldn't hit the problem described in CASSANDRA-11748.
How do you know what is enough random delay? what if you actually delay getting
the schema legitimately?
I suppose the concerns in this ticket are similar but not exactly the same as
CASSANDRA-11748, though I admit that rate limiting the number of schema pulls
per endpoint to one at a time seems sensible and might possibly help a bit with
CASSANDRA-11748.
The schema is being pulled repeatedly from the same instances in
CASSANDRA-11748, but I'm not sure rate limiting alone as described above will
definitely solve it, perhaps it will make it less likely to OOM, but we're
still going to have a lot of incoming serialised schemas from lots of nodes and
we're still left with this sort of rough limit to scalability of "number of
nodes * size of serialised schema" (albeit perhaps with a different threshold).
Maybe some upcoming changes in CASSANDRA-10699 and related tickets may make the
problem CASSANDRA-11748 even less likely, since part of the problem is that
we're sending the entire serialised schema inside a mutation, which can end up
being quite large if you have lots of tables or lots of columns in lots of
tables.
Also, for reference I believe the migration delay was added in the following
ticket, in order to give a schema alteration sufficient time to propagate from
the node where it changed,
and not have a migration task race with this change and pull the whole schema
instead of receive the delta:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-5025
> Schedule schema pulls just once per endpoint
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>
> Key: CASSANDRA-13569
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13569
> Project: Cassandra
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Distributed Metadata
> Reporter: Stefan Podkowinski
> Assignee: Stefan Podkowinski
> Fix For: 3.0.x, 3.11.x, 4.x
>
>
> Schema mismatches detected through gossip will get resolved by calling
> {{MigrationManager.maybeScheduleSchemaPull}}. This method may decide to
> schedule execution of {{MigrationTask}}, but only after using a
> {{MIGRATION_DELAY_IN_MS = 60000}} delay (for reasons unclear to me).
> Meanwhile, as long as the migration task hasn't been executed, we'll continue
> to have schema mismatches reported by gossip and will have corresponding
> {{maybeScheduleSchemaPull}} calls, which will schedule further tasks with the
> mentioned delay. Some local testing shows that dozens of tasks for the same
> endpoint will eventually be executed and causing the same, stormy behavior
> for this very endpoints.
> My proposal would be to simply not schedule new tasks for the same endpoint,
> in case we still have pending tasks waiting for execution after
> {{MIGRATION_DELAY_IN_MS}}.
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