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mck commented on CASSANDRA-15260:
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[~blambov], in context of this thread 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/56435ee11852ea842443d462500277eebe76743e6657e0cfdd7d67df@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E
would you agree with the default of `allocate_tokens_for_local_rf=3` if 
`num_tokens=16` also became the default?

> Add `allocate_tokens_for_dc_rf` yaml option for token allocation
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-15260
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15260
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Local/Config
>            Reporter: mck
>            Assignee: mck
>            Priority: Normal
>             Fix For: 4.x
>
>
> Similar to DSE's option: {{allocate_tokens_for_local_replication_factor}}
> Currently the 
> [ReplicationAwareTokenAllocator|https://www.datastax.com/dev/blog/token-allocation-algorithm]
>  requires a defined keyspace and a replica factor specified in the current 
> datacenter.
> This is problematic in a number of ways. The real keyspace can not be used 
> when adding new datacenters as, in practice, all its nodes need to be up and 
> running before it has the capacity to replicate data into it. New datacenters 
> (or lift-and-shifting a cluster via datacenter migration) therefore has to be 
> done using a dummy keyspace that duplicates the replication strategy+factor 
> of the real keyspace. This gets even more difficult come version 4.0, as the 
> replica factor can not even be defined in new datacenters before those 
> datacenters are up and running. 
> These issues are removed by avoiding the keyspace definition and lookup, and 
> presuming the replica strategy is by datacenter, ie NTS. This can be done 
> with the use of an {{allocate_tokens_for_dc_rf}} option.
> It may also be of value considering whether {{allocate_tokens_for_dc_rf=3}} 
> becomes the default? as this is the replication factor for the vast majority 
> of datacenters in production. I suspect this would be a good improvement over 
> the existing randomly generated tokens algorithm.
> Initial patch is available in 
> [https://github.com/thelastpickle/cassandra/commit/fc4865b0399570e58f11215565ba17dc4a53da97]
> The patch does not remove the existing {{allocate_tokens_for_keyspace}} 
> option, as that provides the codebase for handling different replication 
> strategies.
>  
> fyi [~blambov] [~jay.zhuang] [~chovatia.jayd...@gmail.com] [~alokamvenki] 
> [~alexchueshev]



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