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Jonathan Ellis commented on CASSANDRA-3219:
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bq. I think that it's more complicated to explain/understand how to choose 
between those two options

Huh?  This is a HUGE simplification because initial_token behavior depends only 
on initial_token.  The old behavior (where initial_token=empty behavior does 
one thing with auto_bootstrap=true, and another with a_b=false) was ENORMOUSLY 
confusing: EVERY training class I taught was baffled by this.

Further, the old behavior doesn't let you specify bootstrap/random or 
nobootstrap/auto, both of which are valid things to do.

bq. based on whether there is a keyspace defined already

I don't see how this helps the situation Jake describes.

bq. just force user to set a token

This is a non-starter.

> Nodes started at the same time end up with the same token
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-3219
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3219
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Bug
>    Affects Versions: 1.0.0
>            Reporter: T Jake Luciani
>            Assignee: Jonathan Ellis
>              Labels: bootstrap
>             Fix For: 1.0.0
>
>         Attachments: 3219.txt, 3219_v2.patch
>
>
> Since autoboostrap is defaulted to on when you start a cluster at once 
> (http://screenr.com/5G6) you can end up with nodes being assigned the same 
> token.
> {code}
> INFO 17:34:55,688 Node /67.23.43.14 is now part of the cluster
>  INFO 17:34:55,698 InetAddress /67.23.43.14 is now UP
>  INFO 17:34:55,698 Nodes /67.23.43.14 and tjake2/67.23.43.15 have the same 
> token 8823900603000512634329811229926543166.  Ignoring /67.23.43.14
>  INFO 17:34:55,698 Node /98.129.220.182 is now part of the cluster
>  INFO 17:34:55,698 InetAddress /98.129.220.182 is now UP
>  INFO 17:34:55,698 Nodes /98.129.220.182 and tjake2/67.23.43.15 have the same 
> token 8823900603000512634329811229926543166.  Ignoring /98.129.220.182
> {code}

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