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Stefan Miklosovic edited comment on CASSANDRA-20051 at 11/7/24 4:59 PM:
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??At which point the running behavior is exactly the same for the cluster with 
and without this fix, and nobody would be able to tell???

So after we apply that script, all nodes will have a seed set properly but that 
one which will not set it to itself will contain some other node. Then we go to 
remove this node from a cluster, because we were thinking there is no node 
which still contains this seed. So we remove that node and we end up with a 
node point to non-existing one. 

??There's no valid reason why you'd WANT a seed to point to a non-existent 
node.??

Yes, nobody is doing this _on purpose_. In practice, there should be some 
mistake made. If people made mistake, they will very likely want to fix it. We 
would just tell them automatically that an IP address they used does not make 
sense because there is no node behind it. 


was (Author: smiklosovic):
??At which point the running behavior is exactly the same for the cluster with 
and without this fix, and nobody would be able to tell???

So after we apply that script, all nodes will have a seed set property but that 
one which will not set it to itself will contain some other node. Then we go to 
remove this node from a cluster, because we were thinking there is no node 
which still contains this seed. So we remove that node and we end up with a 
node point to non-existing one. 

??There's no valid reason why you'd WANT a seed to point to a non-existent 
node.??

Yes, nobody is doing this _on purpose_. In practice, there should be some 
mistake made. If people made mistake, they will very likely want to fix it. We 
would just tell them automatically that an IP address they used does not make 
sense because there is no node behind it. 

> nodetool reloadseeds does not reliably reload the seeds
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-20051
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-20051
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Local/Config
>            Reporter: Tibor Repasi
>            Assignee: Stefan Miklosovic
>            Priority: Normal
>             Fix For: 4.0.x, 4.1.x, 5.0.x, 5.x
>
>          Time Spent: 1h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> During re-deploying lots of Cassandra nodes I've observed that some nodes 
> does not reliably reload the seeds when {{nodetool reloadseeds}} command was 
> issued.
> After the seeds list was changed in the config:
> {code}
> $ grep seeds /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>  - seeds: 10.90.44.82
> $ nodetool getseeds
> Current list of seed node IPs, excluding the current node's IP: 
> /10.90.40.86:7000 /10.90.44.86:7000
> $ nodetool reloadseeds
> Updated seed node IP list, excluding the current node's IP: /10.90.40.86:7000 
> /10.90.44.86:7000
> {code}
> At this instance the following line was logged to debug.log:
> {code}
> DEBUG [RMI TCP Connection(103568)-127.0.0.1] 2024-11-04 14:04:27,638 
> YamlConfigurationLoader.java:124 - Loading settings from 
> file:/etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
> {code}
> However, getting the old list:
> {code}
> $ nodetool getseeds
> Current list of seed node IPs, excluding the current node's IP: 
> /10.90.40.86:7000 /10.90.44.86:7000
> {code}
> These nodes read the seed list only after Cassandra was restarted:
> {code}
> $ sudo systemctl restart cassandra.service
> $ nodetool getseeds
> Seed node list does not contain any remote node IPs
> {code}
> Note: this was observed on a seed node.
> Observed on Cassandra 4.1.7.



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