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Peter Schuller commented on CASSANDRA-4277:
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Please re-read. What you're saying is re-iterating the same confusion that
seems to be the reason for this setting to begin with.
It has *nothing* to do with CPU cores. This is about concurrent requests, that
are not CPU bound.
Logically the optimal amount *IS NOT* the number of cores. See my original
submission.
> hsha default thread limits make no sense, and yaml comments look confused
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>
> Key: CASSANDRA-4277
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-4277
> Project: Cassandra
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: Core
> Reporter: Peter Schuller
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> The cassandra.yaml states with respect to {{rpc_max_threads}}:
> {code}
> # For the Hsha server, the min and max both default to quadruple the number of
> # CPU cores.
> {code}
> The code seems to indeed do this. But this makes, as far as I can tell, no
> sense what-so-ever since the number of concurrent RPC threads you need is a
> function of the throughput and the average latency of requests (that includes
> synchronously waiting on network traffic).
> Defaulting to anything having to do with CPU cores seems inherently wrong. If
> a default is non-static, a closer guess might be to look at thread stack size
> and heap size and infer what "might" be reasonable.
> *NOTE*: The effect of having this too low, is "strange" (if you don't know
> what's going on) latencies observed form the client on all thrift requests
> (*any* thrift request, including e.g. {{describe_ring()}}), that isn't
> visible in any latency metric exposed by Cassandra. This is why I consider
> this "major", since unwitting users may be seeing detrimental performance for
> no good reason.
> In addition, I read this about async:
> {code}
> # async -> Nonblocking server implementation with one thread to serve
> # rpc connections. This is not recommended for high throughput use
> # cases. Async has been tested to be about 50% slower than sync
> # or hsha and is deprecated: it will be removed in the next major
> release.
> {code}
> This makes even less sense. Running with *one* rpc thread limits you to a
> single concurrent request. How was that 50% number even attained? By
> single-node testing being completely CPU bound locally on a node? The actual
> effect should be "stupidly slow" in any real situation with lots of requests
> on a cluster of many nodes and network traffic (though I didn't test that) -
> especially in the event of any kind of hiccup like a node doing GC. I agree
> that if the above is true, async should *definitely* be deprecated, but the
> reasons seem *much* stronger than implied.
> I may be missing something here, in which case I apologize,, but I
> specifically double-checked after I fixed this setting on on our our clusters
> after seeing exactly the expected side-effect of having it be too low. I
> always was under the impression that rpc_max_threads affects the number of
> RPC requests running concurrently, and code inspection (it being used for the
> worker thread limit) + the effects of client-observed latency is consistent
> with my understanding.
> I suspect the setting was set strangely by someone because the phrasing of
> the comments in {{cassandra.yaml}} strongly suggest that this should be tied
> to CPU cores, hiding the fact that this really has to do with the number of
> requests that can be serviced concurrently regardless of implementation
> details of thrift/networking being sync/async/etc.
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