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Robert Coli commented on CASSANDRA-2356:
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(
though I know this ticket is resolved WONTFIX, I came across this ticket and 
saw jeromatron say :

" Another case might be when a downed node comes back up and starts by default 
and tries to claim a token that has already been claimed by another newly 
bootstrapped node. Rob is more familiar with that case so I'll let him explain 
it in the comments. "

I believe I was probably supposed to comment on this ticket in 2011 and 
didn't...
)

I think that configuring Cassandra to auto-start under any circumstances should 
be considered harmful, because of this case :

1) node A has token X
2) node A dies and the OS crashes
3) node A is replaced by node B, also at token X (say by restoring a full 
snapshot)
4) node A is rebooted (say as part of RMA process)
5) cluster accepts node A as the rightful owner of token X, because it has a 
later generation number by virtue of having been more recently started
6) you have a two nodes which contain the same but desychronized dataset, at 
the same token, and no straightforward way to unify them

Are there any circumstances where auto-starting, esp. on packaged install or 
upgrade, is actually desirable?
                
> make the debian package never start by default
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-2356
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2356
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Packaging
>            Reporter: Jeremy Hanna
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: debian, packaging
>         Attachments: 2356.txt
>
>
> Currently the debian package that installs cassandra starts cassandra by 
> default.  It sounds like that is a standard debian packaging convention.  
> However, if you want to bootstrap a new node and want to configure it before 
> it creates any sort of state information, it's a pain.  I would think that 
> the common use case would be to have it install all of the init scripts and 
> such but *not* have it start up by default.  That way an admin can configure 
> cassandra with seed, token, host, etc. information and then start it.  That 
> makes it easier to programmatically do this as well - have chef/puppet 
> install cassandra, do some configuration, then do the service start.
> With the current setup, it sounds like cassandra creates state on startup 
> that has to be cleaned before a new configuration can take effect.  So the 
> process of installing turns into:
> * install debian package
> * shutdown cassandra
> * clean out state (data/log dirs)
> * configure cassandra
> * start cassandra
> That seems suboptimal for the default case, especially when trying to 
> automate new nodes being bootstrapped.
> Another case might be when a downed node comes back up and starts by default 
> and tries to claim a token that has already been claimed by another newly 
> bootstrapped node.  Rob is more familiar with that case so I'll let him 
> explain it in the comments.

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