wido commented on issue #12210:
URL: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/12210#issuecomment-3641220772

   > This is really a good idea, thanks [@wido](https://github.com/wido)
   > 
   
   Thanks! I must say I'm excited about this. Full L3, I love it. True routing!
   
   > we could introduce a new type of zone (similar to Edge zone), let's call 
it "Routed zone".
   > 
   
   Yes, sounds like a plan.
   
   > what's your thoughts on the following topics ?
   > 
   >     * is CPVM needed ? we are thinking of moving CPVM from VM to a package 
like `cloudstack-console-proxy` which can be installed anywhere.
   > 
   
   We will need a Console Proxy as users will need to be able to connect to 
their console, right?
   
   >     * is SSVM needed ? ACS supports direct-download templates for kvm 
zones. This could be also moved to a package in the future.
   > 
   
   I would say yes. We just need to support this network config on the VR, the 
VR gets this data via 'cmdline' and we can configure the NIC that way.
   
   >     * is SG supported ? It is required for public cloud providers I think. 
we could consider new implementation using libvirt nwfilter (related to 
[[Draft] KVM: enable no-mac-spoofing on virtual nics 
#8951](https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/8951))
   
   I don't see why the SG won't work, it's a regular bridge. No modification 
required.
   
   nwfilter is much better in Libvirt, but our current code would work just 
fine.
   


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