vinothchandar commented on code in PR #17610:
URL: https://github.com/apache/hudi/pull/17610#discussion_r2692523215


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+# RFC-102: RLI support for Flink streaming
+
+## Proposers
+
+- @danny0405
+
+## Approvers
+ - @geserdugarov
+ - @vinothchandar
+ - @cshuo
+
+## Status
+
+GH Discussion: https://github.com/apache/hudi/discussions/17452
+
+> Please keep the status updated in `rfc/README.md`.
+
+## Abstract
+This RFC aims to introduce RLI support for Flink streaming:
+
+- Impl reliable and performant write and read support for RLI via Flink APIs;
+- The RLI impl is engines compatible, for e.g, Flink can access and utilize 
the RLI written by Spark and vice versa;
+- The RLI is global, upserts among partitions is supported; Also support 
partition level RLI for large fact tables;
+- Async compaction for MDT when RLI is enabled; in writer pipeline or table 
services background job;
+- Smart caching of RLI;
+- Clearly set limits for the kind of write throughput supported by RLI (based 
on certain average response time for the RLI access, like from x0ms to x00ms) 
via empirical benchmarks;
+- Ability to be expanded to arbitrary secondary indexing on different columns.
+
+## Background
+Flink does not support RLI while spark does, this caused inconsistency between 
engines, for tables migrated from Spark to flink streaming, the index type 
needs to be switched to either bucket or flink_state , this caused a overhead 
for users in production.
+
+Another reason is for multiple partition upserts, currently the only choice is 
flink_state index, but the flink_state actually costs a lot of memory and can 
not be shared between different workloads.
+
+## Implementation
+
+The high-level ideas:
+
+- a RLI based index backend will be there to replace the flink_state index;
+- a cache of RLI would be introduced to speed the access;
+- a separate index function to write the RLI/SI payloads;
+- the MDT RLI files is written synchronously with the data table data files, 
the metadata is sent to the coordinator for a final commit to the MDT(after 
`FILES` partition is ready);
+- the MDT compaction is switched to be async and the data files compaction 
pipeline is reused for less take up of task slots.
+
+### The Write
+
+### The RLI Access
+In `BucketAssigner` operator, the RLI index metadata would be utilized as the 
index backend, the `BucketAssigner` operator will probe the RLI with the 
incoming record keys to figure out whether msg is update or insert or delete.
+In other words, the RLI index metadata will serve as the same role of the 
`flink_state` index.
+
+#### The Cache of RLI Access
+We need fast access in streaming to have high throughput(ideally per record 
access should be < 10ms), thus a general hotspot cache is needed. We will build 
a in-memory LRU cache by the active upsert records keys, the cache items will 
be force evictted by a configured memory threshold.
+
+We also need a memory cache for the index mappings of current checkpoint 
because it is not committed to Hudi table yet so invisible.

Review Comment:
   IIUC, this is so that if we see same record key again within the commit, it 
gets routed to the same location on data table? 
   
   The actual updates to RLI/SI will happen away/outside of the cache you are 
discussing? 



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+# RFC-102: RLI and SI support for Flink sink
+
+## Proposers
+
+- @danny0405
+
+## Approvers
+ - @geserdugarov
+ - @vinothchandar
+ - @cshuo
+
+## Status
+
+GH Discussion: https://github.com/apache/hudi/discussions/17452
+
+> Please keep the status updated in `rfc/README.md`.
+
+## Abstract
+This RFC aims to introduce RLI and SI support for Flink streaming:
+
+- Impl reliable and performant write and read support for RLI via Flink APIs;
+- The RLI impl is engines compatible, for e.g, Flink can access and utilize 
the RLI written by Spark and vice versa;
+- The RLI is global, upserts among partitions is supported; Also support 
partition level RLI for large fact tables;
+- Async compaction for MDT when RLI is enabled; in writer pipeline or table 
services background job;
+- Smart caching of RLI;
+- Clearly document scale/performance limits for write throughput supported by 
RLI (based on certain average response time for the RLI access, like from x0ms 
to x00ms) via empirical benchmarks;
+- Ability to be expanded to arbitrary secondary indexing on different columns.
+
+## Background
+Flink does not support RLI while spark does, this caused inconsistency between 
engines, for tables migrated from Spark to flink streaming, the index type 
needs to be switched to either bucket or flink_state, which caused an overhead 
for users in production.
+
+Another motivation is for scalable, efficient support for cross-partition 
updates (where the partition path of the record is changed). Currently, the 
only choice is flink_state index, which can be costly when used in such a 
scenario to hold state proportional to the size of table.
+This is due to the fact that the flink_state could use a lot of memory and can 
not be shared between different workloads.
+
+## High Level Design
+
+The high-level ideas:
+
+- an RLI based index backend will be added, which can be used in place of the 
current the flink_state index;
+- a cache of RLI would be introduced to speed the access; along with a caching 
invalidation mechanism to keep it consistent with committed state of the table.
+- a separate Flink index function to write the RLI/SI payloads;
+- the MDT RLI and SI files will be written synchronously with the data table 
data files, the metadata is sent to the coordinator for a final commit to the 
MDT(after `FILES` partition is ready);
+- the MDT compaction is switched to be async and the data files compaction 
pipeline is reused for less take up of task slots.
+
+![Index Write Flow](./index-write-flow.png)
+
+### Detailed Design
+
+### The RLI Access
+In `BucketAssigner` operator, the RLI index metadata would be utilized as the 
index backend, the `BucketAssigner` operator will probe the RLI with the 
incoming record keys to figure out whether msg is update or insert or delete.
+In other words, the RLI index metadata will serve as the same role of the 
`flink_state` index. Since current `BucketAssigner` already supports **global** 
and **non-global** index types, global RLI index would be applied for **global**
+index and partitioned RLI would be supported for **non-global** index.
+
+In order to read per RLI shard once per commit, and not cache all RLI shards 
for each `BucketAssigner` task, the input records of `BucketAssigner` will be 
shuffled by `hash(record_key) % num_rli_shards`(the same hashing algorithm of 
the MDT `RLI index` partitioner).
+
+#### The Cache of RLI Access
+We need fast access in streaming to have high throughput(milliseconds-level 
per record access), a general hotspot cache is needed.
+We will build an in-memory LRU cache by the active upsert records keys, the 
cache items will be force evicted by a configured memory threshold.
+
+We also need a memory cache for the index mappings of current checkpoint 
because it is not committed to Hudi table yet so invisible.
+This cache is not allowed to be cleaned until the checkpoint/instant is 
committed to Hudi(indicates that the index payloads are also committed).
+
+We are caching `key -> location` mappings (record level cache) with LRU style 
eviction strategy with configurable cache size, the MDT reader also got its 
native file level cache though.
+
+#### Access of Valid but Uncommitted Instants
+On job restart or task failover, there is use case that the checkpoint 
succeeds on Flink while the instant is not committed to Hudi, for DT metadata, 
the pipeline will recommit
+the instant with the recovered table metadata, because the `BucketAssigner` 
operator is the upstream operator of `StreamWrite` operator, there is time gap 
for these inflight instants to recommit,
+and we do not want to block the processing of `BucketAssigner`(to wait for the 
inflight instants to recommit successfully). The suggested solution is
+to include these special inflight instants on RLI access queries, basically, 
we need to support reading inflight instants on MDT.

Review Comment:
   We should not be adding any "special" new types of instants for this. Once 
again, please write this out in detail since its not clear what these special 
instants are, why do they exist when the DT metadata was not written. I have a 
lot of questions like that.



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