Demogorgon314 commented on code in PR #20748:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20748#discussion_r1280060503


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+# Background knowledge
+
+- Pulsar broker load balancer periodically unloads bundles from overloaded 
brokers. During this unload process, previous owner brokers close topic 
sessions(e.g. producers, subscriptions(consumers), managed ledgers). When 
re-assigned, new owner brokers recreate the topic sessions.
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+- Pulsar clients request `CommandLookupTopic` to lookup or assign owner 
brokers for topics and connect to them.
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+- PIP-192, the extensible load balancer introduced the bundle state channel 
that event-sources this unloading process in a state machine manner, from 
`releasing,` `assigned`, to `owned` state order. At `releasing,` the owner 
broker "releases" the bundle ownership(close topic sessions).
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+- PIP-192, the extensible load balancer introduced TransferShedder, a new 
shedding strategy, which pre-assigns new owner brokers beforehand.
+
+
+# Motivation
+
+- When unloading closes many topic sessions, then many clients need to request 
CommandLookupTopic at the same time, which could cause many lookup requests on 
brokers. This unloading process can be further optimized if we can let the 
client directly connect to the new owner broker without following 
`CommandLookupTopic` requests.
+- In the new load balancer(pip-192), since the owner broker is already known, 
we can modify the close command protocol to pass the new destination broker URL 
and skip the lookup requests.
+- Also, when unloading, we can gracefully shutdown ledgers -- we always close 
old managed ledgers first and then recreate it on the new owner without 
conflicts.
+
+# Goals
+- Remove clients' lookup requests in the unload protocol
+- Gracefully shutdown managed ledgers before new owners create them.
+
+## In Scope
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+- This change will be added in the extensible load balancer.
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+## Out of Scope
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+- This won't change the existing load balancer behavior(modular load manager).
+
+
+
+# High Level Design
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+Current Unload and Lookup Sequence in Extensible Load Balancer
+```mermaid
+sequenceDiagram
+    participant Clients
+    participant Owner Broker
+    participant New Owner Broker
+    participant Leader Broker
+    Leader Broker ->> Owner Broker: "state:Releasing:" close topic
+    Owner Broker ->> Owner Broker: close broker topic sessions
+    Owner Broker ->> Clients: close producers and consumers
+    Clients ->> Clients: reconnecting (inital delay 100ms)
+    Owner Broker ->> New Owner Broker: "state:Assign:" assign new ownership
+    New Owner Broker ->> Owner Broker: "state:Owned:" ack new ownership
+    Clients ->> Owner Broker: lookup
+    Owner Broker ->> Clients: redirect
+    Clients ->> New Owner Broker: lookup
+    New Owner Broker ->> Clients: return(connected)
+```
+
+Proposed Unload Sequence in Extensible Load Balancer without Lookup
+```mermaid
+sequenceDiagram
+    participant Clients
+    participant Owner Broker
+    participant New Owner Broker
+    participant Leader Broker
+    Leader Broker ->> Owner Broker: "state:Releasing:" close topic
+    Owner Broker ->> Owner Broker: close broker topic sessions(e.g ledgers) 
without disconnecting producers/consumers(fenced)
+    Clients -->> Owner Broker: message pubs are ignored
+    Owner Broker ->> New Owner Broker: "state:Assign:" assign new ownership
+    New Owner Broker ->> Owner Broker: "state:Owned:" ack new ownership
+    Owner Broker ->> Owner Broker: close the fenced broker topic sessions
+    Owner Broker ->> Clients: close producers and consumers (with 
newOwnerBrokerUrl)
+    Clients ->> New Owner Broker: immediately connect
+```
+
+
+# Detailed Design
+
+## Design & Implementation Details
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+- Modify CommandCloseProducer, CommandCloseConsumer to pass optional 
brokerServiceUrls
+```
+message CommandCloseProducer {

Review Comment:
   Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.



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