maskit commented on issue #2526: [dev] provide a python merge script for 
merging pull requests
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/pull/2526#issuecomment-419464632
 
 
   > agreed. that's what I stated in the mail thread. what I need is a clear 
policy. the tool here is adding enforcement.
   
   > I have started the mail thread for almost a month, but really almost no 
one in the community is interested in discussing the rules.
   
   > I have started the discussion in the mail thread. This PR is just to 
demonstrate a proposal to follow what other project is doing spark, bookkeeper, 
kafka and many other ASF projects. If the community likes this approach, we can 
adopt it. If the community doesn't like the approach, it is okay since it is 
just a proposal, if there is other good approaches, please raise it up in the 
mail thread.
   
   I'm sorry for not responding on the mail thread. However, as you commented, 
a clear policy is what we need. If we just borrowed scripts from another 
project, the policy would keep unclear to people who are not participating the 
project.
   
   I'd like to see the policy that is coded into the script. We can enforce the 
policy later by using the script.
   
   > First, Labeling the issues and marking milestone. It is the easiest part. 
If everyone can follow the rules, that is totally fine. However people are just 
lazy and steps are usually missed.
   
   I think we need to get used to doing it, and committers should be 
responsible for checking these things. ATS community is doing this pretty well 
without tools. A clear policy would be a help. 
   
   > Second, manage the commit message. when you click 'squash and merge' 
button, if you don't pay attention to copying the description in the PR to the 
merge text box, you will end up with a commit without description or with a 
mixed of random commits
   
   The same as above. Committers should take care of this. I don't think 
automating it always ends up with the best result.
   
   > Last, manage the cherry-picks. that is the difficult part. currently we 
are using milestone for tracking the releases, however a PR can be linked to 
only one milestone.
   
   I understand the difficulty. ATS community is facing the same issue. To deal 
with it, they also use Project for backporting request management. It's still 
too early to say it's working well, but I think it worth to try.
   
   > For 1), those individual cherry-picks are not interconnected, when you 
look into a git log in the branch, you will never know if the change is a 
cherry-pick or a brand new commit. There is almost no way for people to 
traverse back the original change.
   
   In ATS community, they uses `-x`  when they cherry-pick commits. This option 
appends the original commit hash to the commit log.
   
   > For 2), it has to going to another review cycle and the problem listed 
above during merging will occur.
   
   In ATS community, they make PRs for backporting only if the commit cannot be 
cherry-picked cleanly due to conflicts. And RM basically doesn't make PRs by 
himself but ask the original author to do so because RM isn't familiar with the 
change/module in some cases. RM just check that PRs are in policy and merge 
them.
   
   > I don't meant to introduce any overhead to the merging and releasing 
process. However I do think for Pulsar to become a success project, it has to 
do something on this management.
   
   I understand and agree.
   
   > At the end, to really know the pain points, I would suggest every 
committer in the community should do at least one bugfix release.
   
   I don't disagree but that would take time. Since you are trying to enforce a 
policy, I guess you already have good examples for explaining the pain and how 
the policy solve it, right? Why don't you share those examples?

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