Repository: qpid-site
Updated Branches:
  refs/heads/asf-site 835e12920 -> e5edf8a8f


update mailing list details page, clarify the archive locations, how to 
sub/unsub, etc


Project: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid-site/repo
Commit: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid-site/commit/e5edf8a8
Tree: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid-site/tree/e5edf8a8
Diff: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid-site/diff/e5edf8a8

Branch: refs/heads/asf-site
Commit: e5edf8a8f31f07ef9487a37f47815d9be15194e2
Parents: 835e129
Author: Robbie Gemmell <rob...@apache.org>
Authored: Fri Apr 6 11:25:35 2018 +0100
Committer: Robbie Gemmell <rob...@apache.org>
Committed: Fri Apr 6 11:26:32 2018 +0100

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 content/discussion.html | 30 +++++++++++-------------------
 input/discussion.md     | 19 +++++++++----------
 2 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)
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http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid-site/blob/e5edf8a8/content/discussion.html
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diff --git a/content/discussion.html b/content/discussion.html
index 2f56f7e..5ded30e 100644
--- a/content/discussion.html
+++ b/content/discussion.html
@@ -122,10 +122,7 @@ 
https://github.com/apache/qpid-proton/blob/go1{/dir}/{file}#L{line}"/>
 
 <p>Mailing lists are the primary means of collaboration at Qpid.</p>
 
-<p>Subscribe to these lists by sending an email with the word "subscribe"
-in the subject to the subscribe address.  To unsubscribe, it's the
-reverse: send an email with "unsubscribe" in the subject to the
-unsubscribe address.</p>
+<p>Subscribe to these lists by sending an email to the <em>subscribe 
address</em> listed, <em>not</em> the main list address, and you will receive a 
verification email. To unsubscribe, send an email to the <em>unsubscribe</em> 
address. <em>Responses to list postings go back to the list, you must subscribe 
to receive them.</em></p>
 
 <table>
 <thead>
@@ -134,30 +131,23 @@ unsubscribe address.</p>
   <th>Purpose</th>
   <th>Subscribe</th>
   <th>Unsubscribe</th>
-  <th>Archive</th>
+  <th>Archives</th>
 </tr>
 </thead>
 <tbody>
 <tr>
   <td><a 
href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-users/";>us...@qpid.apache.org</a></td>
   <td>General discussion</td>
-  <td><a href="mailto:users-subscr...@qpid.apache.org";>users-subscribe</a></td>
-  <td><a 
href="mailto:users-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org";>users-unsubscribe</a></td>
-  <td><a 
href="http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-users-f2158936.html";>Nabble</a></td>
+  <td><a 
href="mailto:users-subscr...@qpid.apache.org";>users-subscr...@qpid.apache.org</a></td>
+  <td><a 
href="mailto:users-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org";>users-unsubscribe@</a></td>
+  <td><a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-users/";>ASF</a>, 
<a href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?us...@qpid.apache.org";>ASF2</a>, <a 
href="http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-users-f2158936.html";>Nabble</a></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
   <td><a 
href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-dev/";>d...@qpid.apache.org</a></td>
   <td>Issue notifications</td>
-  <td><a href="mailto:dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org";>dev-subscribe</a></td>
-  <td><a href="mailto:dev-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org";>dev-unsubscribe</a></td>
-  <td><a 
href="http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-developers-f7254403.html";>Nabble</a></td>
-</tr>
-<tr>
-  <td><a 
href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-proton/";>pro...@qpid.apache.org</a></td>
-  <td>Proton. Going forward, use above lists.</td>
-  <td></td>
-  <td></td>
-  <td><a 
href="http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-Proton-f7580687.html";>Nabble</a></td>
+  <td><a 
href="mailto:dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org";>dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org</a></td>
+  <td><a 
href="mailto:dev-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org";>dev-unsubscribe@</a></td>
+  <td><a href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-dev/";>ASF</a>, <a 
href="https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@qpid.apache.org";>ASF2</a>, <a 
href="http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-developers-f7254403.html";>Nabble</a></td>
 </tr>
 </tbody>
 </table>
@@ -166,9 +156,11 @@ unsubscribe address.</p>
 <a href="/source-code.html#commits-list">commits</a> and
 <a href="/source-code.html#notifications-list">notifications</a>.</p>
 
+<p>Archives for the retired proton@ list are also available (<a 
href="http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-proton/";>ASF</a>, <a 
href="http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-Proton-f7580687.html";>Nabble</a>)
 for historic reference. Going forward, use the users list for discussion of 
Proton.</p>
+
 <p><strong>NOTE</strong>: The Qpid project offers various components in many 
different
 languages. When mailing the lists, please be specific about which
-component, or even which part of a given component, that you are
+components (or even which part of them) and which versions that you are
 using. For example, "I'm using the Qpid Broker-J
 &lt;version&gt; with the Qpid JMS &lt;version&gt; AMQP 1.0 client"
 rather than "I'm using the broker and JMS client".</p>

http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid-site/blob/e5edf8a8/input/discussion.md
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diff --git a/input/discussion.md b/input/discussion.md
index 6826b3d..e790754 100644
--- a/input/discussion.md
+++ b/input/discussion.md
@@ -25,24 +25,23 @@ Have a question or an idea?  We'd be pleased to talk about 
it.
 
 Mailing lists are the primary means of collaboration at Qpid.
 
-Subscribe to these lists by sending an email with the word "subscribe"
-in the subject to the subscribe address.  To unsubscribe, it's the
-reverse: send an email with "unsubscribe" in the subject to the
-unsubscribe address.
+Subscribe to these lists by sending an email to the *subscribe address* 
listed, *not* the main list address, and you will receive a verification email. 
To unsubscribe, send an email to the *unsubscribe* address. *Responses to list 
postings go back to the list, you must subscribe to receive them.*
+
+| List | Purpose | Subscribe | Unsubscribe | Archives |
+|------|---------|-----------|-------------|----------|
+| 
[us...@qpid.apache.org](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-users/) | 
General discussion | 
[users-subscr...@qpid.apache.org](mailto:users-subscr...@qpid.apache.org) | 
[users-unsubscribe@](mailto:users-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org) | 
[ASF](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-users/), 
[ASF2](https://lists.apache.org/list.html?us...@qpid.apache.org), 
[Nabble](http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-users-f2158936.html) |
+| [d...@qpid.apache.org](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-dev/) | 
Issue notifications | 
[dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org](mailto:dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org) | 
[dev-unsubscribe@](mailto:dev-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org) | 
[ASF](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-dev/), 
[ASF2](https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@qpid.apache.org), 
[Nabble](http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-developers-f7254403.html)
 |
 
-| List | Purpose | Subscribe | Unsubscribe | Archive | 
-|------|---------|-----------|-------------|---------|
-| 
[us...@qpid.apache.org](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-users/) | 
General discussion | [users-subscribe](mailto:users-subscr...@qpid.apache.org) 
| [users-unsubscribe](mailto:users-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org) | 
[Nabble](http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-users-f2158936.html) |
-| [d...@qpid.apache.org](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-dev/) | 
Issue notifications | [dev-subscribe](mailto:dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org) | 
[dev-unsubscribe](mailto:dev-unsubscr...@qpid.apache.org) | 
[Nabble](http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-developers-f7254403.html)
 |
-| 
[pro...@qpid.apache.org](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-proton/) 
| Proton. Going forward, use above lists. |  | | 
[Nabble](http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-Proton-f7580687.html) |
 
 Qpid also offers lists for
 [commits]({{site_url}}/source-code.html#commits-list) and
 [notifications]({{site_url}}/source-code.html#notifications-list).
 
+Archives for the retired proton@ list are also available 
([ASF](http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/qpid-proton/), 
[Nabble](http://qpid.2158936.n2.nabble.com/Apache-Qpid-Proton-f7580687.html)) 
for historic reference. Going forward, use the users list for discussion of 
Proton.
+
 **NOTE**: The Qpid project offers various components in many different
 languages. When mailing the lists, please be specific about which
-component, or even which part of a given component, that you are
+components (or even which part of them) and which versions that you are
 using. For example, "I'm using the Qpid Broker-J
 &lt;version&gt; with the Qpid JMS &lt;version&gt; AMQP 1.0 client"
 rather than "I'm using the broker and JMS client".


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