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Chris Riccomini commented on SAMZA-310:
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bq. IMO, users can still use the KafkaLog4jAppender even when we have a new 
appender which uses SystemProducer to send messages

If we have a SystemProducer appender, then there's no need for the 
kafka-specific one, I think. So, I was assuming we'd end up removing the Kafka 
one. This removal would break the log4j.xml files that people have. It'd be 
nice not to have to keep the Kafka one around just for backwards compatibility, 
if we can avoid all of this and just write the SystemProducer one instead.

> Publish container logs to a SystemStream
> ----------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SAMZA-310
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMZA-310
>             Project: Samza
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: container
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: Martin Kleppmann
>            Assignee: Yan Fang
>             Fix For: 0.8.0
>
>         Attachments: SAMZA-310.patch
>
>
> At the moment, it's a bit awkward to get to a Samza job's logs: assuming 
> you're running on YARN, you have to navigate around the YARN web interface, 
> and you can only see one container's logs at a time.
> Given that Samza is all about streams, it would make sense for the logs 
> generated by Samza jobs to also be sent to a stream. There, they could be 
> indexed with [Kibana|http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/kibana/], consumed 
> by an exception-tracking system, etc.
> Notes:
> - The serde for encoding logs into a suitable wire format should be 
> pluggable. There can be a default implementation that uses JSON, analogous to 
> MetricsSnapshotSerdeFactory for metrics, but organisations that already have 
> a standardised in-house encoding for logs should be able to use it.
> - Should this be at the level of Slf4j or Log4j? Currently the log 
> configuration for YARN jobs uses Log4j, which has the advantage that any 
> frameworks/libraries that use Log4j but not Slf4j appear in the logs. 
> However, Samza itself currently only depends on Slf4j. If we tie this feature 
> to Log4j, it would somewhat defeat the purpose of using Slf4j.
> - Do we need to consider partitioning? Perhaps we can use the container name 
> as partitioning key, so that the ordering of logs from each container is 
> preserved.



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