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Howard M. Lewis Ship resolved TAP5-1487.
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    Resolution: Won't Fix
      Assignee: Howard M. Lewis Ship

Duplicate of TAP5-1641, which handled the situation by serializing a null

> The Hibernate "entity" persistent field strategy should handle transient 
> objects (by value) as well as persistent object (by entity name and id)
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>                 Key: TAP5-1487
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-1487
>             Project: Tapestry 5
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: tapestry-hibernate
>    Affects Versions: 5.3, 5.2.5
>            Reporter: Howard M. Lewis Ship
>            Assignee: Howard M. Lewis Ship
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> You have to jump through some amazing hoops otherwise, when you want the same 
> page to store a transient persistent when creating an object, and a true 
> persistent when editing an object.

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