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Geoff Callender edited comment on TAP5-2383 at 9/4/14 9:27 AM:
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The problem with doing this server-side in an AJAX request is that the 
server-side components can't react because they don't know their state - their 
parameters cannot be filled unless the conduits from their containers are 
instantiated, and so on up the tree - so the *subscriber components* cannot 
know their state without reconstructing the entire page, which might not even 
match the current client-side state. 

Their client-side equivalents, however, exactly know their state. Using my 
suggestion, the sequence in your example would be this:  

- In onSuccessFromPersonForm(), do 
ajaxResponseRenderer.publishMessage("personAdded");
- client-side, Tapestry would identify each subscriber, ie. each zone in the 
DOM that was created with refreshOnMessage="personAdded"; and trigger refresh 
on that zone. It would be a second request, but so what? Asynch is the rule 
these days, not the exception.

The most likely use of this mechanism would be for something that shows a count 
of persons to update itself: Persons (27), just as in the example that prompted 
this JIRA: 
http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Different-Zone-Update-s-tt5728186.html
 . 

If there's a need for a context, e.g. personId, then I think we could handle 
it. Perhaps ajaxResponseRenderer.publishMessage("personAdded").with(personId). 
However, I haven't thought through how to handle it in the subscribing zones.


was (Author: geoffcallender):
The problem with doing this server-side in an AJAX request is that the 
server-side components can't react because they don't know their state - their 
parameters cannot be filled unless the conduits from their containers are 
instantiated, and so on up the tree - so the subscriber components cannot know 
their state without reconstructing the entire page, which might not even match 
the current client-side state. 

Their client-side equivalents, however, exactly know their state. Using my 
suggestion, the sequence in your example would be this:  

- In onSuccessFromPersonForm(), do 
ajaxResponseRenderer.publishMessage("personAdded");
- client-side, Tapestry would identify each subscriber, ie. each zone in the 
DOM that was created with refreshOnMessage="personAdded"; and trigger refresh 
on that zone. It would be a second request, but so what? Asynch is the rule 
these days, not the exception.

The most likely use of this mechanism would be for something that shows a count 
of persons to update itself: Persons (27), just as in the example that prompted 
this JIRA: 
http://apache-tapestry-mailing-list-archives.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Different-Zone-Update-s-tt5728186.html
 . 

If there's a need for a context, e.g. personId, then I think we could handle 
it. Perhaps ajaxResponseRenderer.publishMessage("personAdded").with(personId). 
However, I haven't thought through how to handle it in the subscribing zones.

> Serverside publish / subscribe mechanism
> ----------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TAP5-2383
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2383
>             Project: Tapestry 5
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: tapestry-core
>            Reporter: Lance
>            Priority: Minor
>
> In some cases, an event in one component should cause an action (eg ajax 
> update) in another. When these components are siblings it sometimes gets 
> tricky having to pass zone id's around and having one component update the 
> other.
> It would be nice to decouple the components with a serverside pub/sub 
> mechanism. Here's an initial brain dump on how it could work.
> {code:java}
> public class EditPersonComponent {
>    @Parameter
>    private Person person;
>    @Inject
>    private PersonDao personDao;
>    @Inject
>    private ComponentResources componentResources;
>    // lets assume there's a form in the component which gets posted
>    void onSuccessFromPersonForm() {
>       personDao.save(person);
>       componentResources.publish("personUpdated", person); // new method on 
> ComponentResources
>    }
> }
> {code}
> {code:java}
> public class SomeOtherComponent {
>    @Inject 
>    private AjaxResponseRenderer ajaxResponseRenderer;
>    @Property
>    private Person person;
>    @Inject
>    private Zone personZone;
>    // new subscribe annotation (and naming convention?)
>    @Subscribe("personUpdated")
>    void onPersonUpdatedPublished(Person person) {
>       this.person = person;
>       ajaxResponseRenderer.addRender(personZone);
>    }
> }
> {code}     
> If this change was made on ComponentResources, we should probably add the 
> following to support invoking publish events on the client
> {code}
> Link ComponentResources.createPublishLink(String eventType, Object... context)
> {code}



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