comaniac commented on a change in pull request #6:
URL: https://github.com/apache/tvm-rfcs/pull/6#discussion_r690760136



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+- Feature Name: Automatic Mixed Precision Pass
+- Start Date: 2021-06-08 
+- RFC PR: TODO
+- GitHub Issue: TODO
+
+# Summary
+[summary]: #summary
+
+Many pieces of hardware support operation not only on 32 bit floating point, 
but also 16 bit floating point. 
+These 16 bit operations typically have higher theoretical throughput and 
involve less use of memory bandwidth.
+As a result, we can see significant increases from changing normal 32 bit 
operations with 16 bit analogs. 
+Surprisingly, for many operations this has little effect on the results, 
though some care must had when changing 
+operations. Some 16 bit floating point operations such as `exp` and `log` for 
example are considered less safe 
+due to loss of [numerical 
precision](https://on-demand.gputechconf.com/gtcdc/2019/pdf/dc91247-automatic-mixed-precision-in-tensorflow.pdf).
 
+In general for a function `f`, if `|f(x)| >> |x|` for expected 
+ranges of input we probably do not want to use the 16 bit floating point 
versions.
+
+This feature will be a relay pass which automatically converts a 32 bit 
floating point model into a reduced bit 
+floating point analog. For the initial pass IEEE's 16 bit floating point will 
be targeted though future support
+for bfloat16 should be in mind.
+
+# Motivation
+[motivation]: #motivation
+
+Many machine learning models can move significant portions of their 
computational graphs into the FP16 space 
+without significant loss of accuracy. For many pieces of hardware this also 
comes with a boost in speed. In 
+the past utilizing FP16 in mixed precision training saw significant [increases 
in convergence 
speed](https://pytorch.org/blog/accelerating-training-on-nvidia-gpus-with-pytorch-automatic-mixed-precision/).
 
+
+We should expect similar increases for inference. This speed increase without 
accuracy loss is highly desirable
+for many users.
+
+# Guide-level explanation
+[guide-level-explanation]: #guide-level-explanation
+
+Operations are partitioned into colors denoted "Green", "Red", and "Gray" 
which represents the benefit 
+of using a reduced floating point version of the operation. "Green" operations 
are compute intensive
+and almost always see hardware memory and latency savings by utilizing a 
reduced floating point form.
+Examples of these operations are matrix multiplies and convolutions. "Gray" 
operations see little to 
+no savings in using reduced floating point forms -- at least not enough to 
justify the overhead of 
+casting values back and forth from FP32. "Red" operations meanwhile are 
operations we do not want to 
+use reduced floating point forms on, usually due to numerical precision 
reasons.
+
+In general we always want to insert casts into reduced floating point space 
for "Green" operations, 
+are fine with transforming "Gray" operations into reduced floating point space 
if their inputs are already
+in that form, and want to explicitly cast back into full floating point space 
for "Red" operations. 
+Each operation will be placed into one of these lists via a "coloring" 
function which take in Relay `CallNodes`
+and returns a color. For example, we might have a function which colors only a 
convolution as "Green" if it 
+has a large enough kernel and "Gray" otherwise. For the default implementation 
we will keep things simple
+however and do something like place all convolutions in the "Green" list, all 
element-wise operations in 
+the "Gray" list, and so on. Still, the code will be designed to be easily 
extensible via overwriting 
+this "coloring" function.
+
+The final variable we must keep in mind is the fact that some hardware 
platforms can operate on reduced
+floating point types. However, while they for example may take two FP16 
operands they may accumulate the 
+result in a 32 bit buffer. An example of this are the Tensor Cores in Nvidia's 
Turing architecture. 
+The final knob we give is a control over how operations accumulate their 
result. For this, we have 
+a function, which maps operation types like `conv2d` to an accumulation 
datatype as well as an output 
+datatype. The output datatype is the type other operations down the line will 
likely ingest from the previous
+calculation while the accumulation datatype describes the size of buffer where 
the results are initially
+stored. For NVidia's tensor cores for example many operations accumulate in 
FP32 but have an output datatype
+of FP16. The default implementation will follow this guideline closely and 
will by default have all 
+operations output FP16 and accumulate in FP32 only if TVM supports mixed 
datatypes for that particular
+operation.
+
+# Reference-level explanation
+[reference-level-explanation]: #reference-level-explanation

Review comment:
       Yeah that would be sufficient for now. We will also need the BF16 
support as well.

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File path: rfcs/0001-AMP_pass.md
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+- Feature Name: Automatic Mixed Precision Pass
+- Start Date: 2021-06-08 
+- RFC PR: TODO
+- GitHub Issue: TODO
+
+# Summary
+[summary]: #summary
+
+Many pieces of hardware support operation not only on 32 bit floating point, 
but also 16 bit floating point. 
+These 16 bit operations typically have higher theoretical throughput and 
involve less use of memory bandwidth.
+As a result, we can see significant increases from changing normal 32 bit 
operations with 16 bit analogs. 
+Surprisingly, for many operations this has little effect on the results, 
though some care must had when changing 
+operations. Some 16 bit floating point operations such as `exp` and `log` for 
example are considered less safe 
+due to loss of [numerical 
precision](https://on-demand.gputechconf.com/gtcdc/2019/pdf/dc91247-automatic-mixed-precision-in-tensorflow.pdf).
 
+In general for a function `f`, if `|f(x)| >> |x|` for expected 
+ranges of input we probably do not want to use the 16 bit floating point 
versions.
+
+This feature will be a relay pass which automatically converts a 32 bit 
floating point model into a reduced bit 
+floating point analog. For the initial pass IEEE's 16 bit floating point will 
be targeted though future support
+for bfloat16 should be in mind.
+
+# Motivation
+[motivation]: #motivation
+
+Many machine learning models can move significant portions of their 
computational graphs into the FP16 space 
+without significant loss of accuracy. For many pieces of hardware this also 
comes with a boost in speed. In 
+the past utilizing FP16 in mixed precision training saw significant [increases 
in convergence 
speed](https://pytorch.org/blog/accelerating-training-on-nvidia-gpus-with-pytorch-automatic-mixed-precision/).
 
+
+We should expect similar increases for inference. This speed increase without 
accuracy loss is highly desirable
+for many users.
+
+# Guide-level explanation
+[guide-level-explanation]: #guide-level-explanation
+
+Operations are partitioned into colors denoted "Green", "Red", and "Gray" 
which represents the benefit 
+of using a reduced floating point version of the operation. "Green" operations 
are compute intensive
+and almost always see hardware memory and latency savings by utilizing a 
reduced floating point form.
+Examples of these operations are matrix multiplies and convolutions. "Gray" 
operations see little to 
+no savings in using reduced floating point forms -- at least not enough to 
justify the overhead of 
+casting values back and forth from FP32. "Red" operations meanwhile are 
operations we do not want to 
+use reduced floating point forms on, usually due to numerical precision 
reasons.
+
+In general we always want to insert casts into reduced floating point space 
for "Green" operations, 
+are fine with transforming "Gray" operations into reduced floating point space 
if their inputs are already
+in that form, and want to explicitly cast back into full floating point space 
for "Red" operations. 
+Each operation will be placed into one of these lists via a "coloring" 
function which take in Relay `CallNodes`
+and returns a color. For example, we might have a function which colors only a 
convolution as "Green" if it 
+has a large enough kernel and "Gray" otherwise. For the default implementation 
we will keep things simple
+however and do something like place all convolutions in the "Green" list, all 
element-wise operations in 
+the "Gray" list, and so on. Still, the code will be designed to be easily 
extensible via overwriting 
+this "coloring" function.
+
+The final variable we must keep in mind is the fact that some hardware 
platforms can operate on reduced
+floating point types. However, while they for example may take two FP16 
operands they may accumulate the 
+result in a 32 bit buffer. An example of this are the Tensor Cores in Nvidia's 
Turing architecture. 
+The final knob we give is a control over how operations accumulate their 
result. For this, we have 
+a function, which maps operation types like `conv2d` to an accumulation 
datatype as well as an output 
+datatype. The output datatype is the type other operations down the line will 
likely ingest from the previous
+calculation while the accumulation datatype describes the size of buffer where 
the results are initially
+stored. For NVidia's tensor cores for example many operations accumulate in 
FP32 but have an output datatype
+of FP16. The default implementation will follow this guideline closely and 
will by default have all 
+operations output FP16 and accumulate in FP32 only if TVM supports mixed 
datatypes for that particular
+operation.
+
+# Reference-level explanation
+[reference-level-explanation]: #reference-level-explanation
+
+See [previous discussion 
thread](https://discuss.tvm.apache.org/t/rfc-relay-fp32-fp16-model-support/9994).
+
+As some have noticed the design can be simplified to a single pass where 
casting is determined by
+running type inference on mutated nodes. With a post-order traversal we can 
then check if we need to 
+cast arguments/propagate color.
+
+Part of the associated RFC issue will also be used dedicated to creating a 
tutorial on how to control
+the conversion of ops via the Python interface. Furthermore, some work will be 
done in benchmarking
+the performance gains from the pass.
+
+# Drawbacks
+[drawbacks]: #drawbacks
+
+If this is not useful, we are just adding an additional pass which will do 
nothing. Furthermore we 
+will have to make sure it works on a wide range of models or people will be 
very mad at TVM.
+
+This might not be useful if mixed precision training becomes super popular in 
the future in which 
+case most models might be in a reduced precision floating point form already.
+
+It also might not be useful if integer quantization becomes super popular, 
though it may be possible
+to mix integer quantization and mixed floating precision techniques. Floating 
point does have 
+several advantages still over integer quantization including simplicity and 
the fact that some 
+operators like `sin` and `erf` are still designed in hardware with floating 
point in mind.
+
+# Rationale and alternatives
+[rationale-and-alternatives]: #rationale-and-alternatives
+
+- Why is this design the best in the space of possible designs?
+
+Other alternatives require a lot more work and changes and could probably 
considered future goals of TVM.
+This include automatic mixed precision training.
+
+- What other designs have been considered and what is the rationale for not 
choosing them?
+
+We can support automatic mixed precision retraining though that is a much, 
much larger future goal. It's
+good to have this in the meantime.
+
+- What is the impact of not doing this?
+
+TVM is not the best tool for making models go fast as we leave a lot of free 
speedup on the table.
+
+# Prior art
+[prior-art]: #prior-art

Review comment:
       It's by tracing the PyTorch code so I don't have an article talking 
about this. The basic idea is since PyTorch uses interpreter to execute the 
model, it dynamically casts a FP32 tensor to FP16 when the op it's going to 
execute requires FP16 inputs. Accordingly, to avoid casting a tensor from FP32 
to FP16 multiple times, it has a tensor cache to cache the casted tensors, so 
that they can be directly used in the future.
   
   With the above content it should be clear that why TVM should adopt the 
XLA-like approach instead of PyTorch, because TVM is more compile-oriented and 
we are able to embrace more graph-level optimizations.
   




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