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- '''under construction'''
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  Meeting date:  October 25, 2010
  
  Location:  Facebook Palo Alto
  
- Attendees:  http://www.meetup.com/Hive-Contributors-Group/calendar/14875663 
plus Paul, Ning, Yongqiang, Basab
+ Attendees:  http://www.meetup.com/Hive-Contributors-Group/calendar/14875663 
plus Paul, Ning, Yongqiang, Liyin, Basab
+ 
+ The [[http://hive.apache.org|TLP]] and 
[[https://cwiki.apache.org/HIVE/bylaws.html|bylaws]] votes passed, so Hive is 
now officially an Apache top level project!  We are going ahead with moving the 
following resources:
+  * website (now at hive.apache.org)
+  * svn (new trunk location is http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/hive/trunk); 
git will follow soon
+  * irc:  we are making #hive the official channel on freenode.net 
(deprecating ##hive)
+  * review board:  we will start using the new ASF facility soon
+  * wiki:  we are going to move to http://cwiki.apache.org/HIVE, but we still 
need to work out the migration plan from MoinMoin
  
  The 0.6 release vote passed, so we will wrap up the release and publish it!
  
- Carl Steinbach proposed making 0.7.0 a time-based release (rather than a 
feature-based release), and that we should start on it soon since a lot of 
features have already buffered up on trunk since we branched 0.6.0.  Ning 
mentioned some features for Microstrategy ODBC integration that we might want 
to try to get in.
+ Carl Steinbach proposed making 0.7.0 a time-based release (rather than a 
feature-based release), and that we should start on it soon since a lot of 
features have already buffered up on trunk since we branched 0.6.0.  Ning 
mentioned some features for Microstrategy ODBC integration that we might want 
to try to get in.  We have a lot of in-progress features such as indexing 
(currently being worked on by a team of students at Harvey Mudd College as well 
as some other contributors), so we'll need to mark some of those as 
experimental.
  
- Yongqiang gave a presentation on security 
([[http://files.meetup.com/1658206/Hive%20Security.pptx|Powerpoint]]).
+ Yongqiang gave a presentation on Facebook's proposal for adding authorization 
support to Hive 
([[http://files.meetup.com/1658206/Hive%20Security.pptx|Powerpoint]]).  This 
took place in the context of a general discussion on how to make Hadoop-level 
permissions work with Hive-level permissions.  We discussed three different 
approaches:
  
+  1. Disable Hadoop security and use Hive authorization only.  This provides 
"advisory" authorization only; in other words, users are prevented from 
accidentally accessing information which they aren't supposed to see, but 
nothing prevents a malicious user from circumventing these protections.
+  1. Disable Hive authorization and use Hadoop security only (with Hive 
support for setting the permissions on new files).  In this configuration, 
Hadoop jobs run with the privileges of the invoking user.  This is the mode 
being developed by the Howl team.  It is fundamentally incompatible with 
Hive-enforced features such as column-level authorization and view-level 
authorization.
+  1. Enable Hadoop security and run Hive in server mode only (with 
authorization enabled), with all Hive files owned by a system user.  In this 
configuration, Hadoop jobs run with the privileges of a system user.  This 
matches the traditional DBMS model where the DBMS owns its files, and anything 
else requires import/export into user-owned directories.  This mode may be 
incompatible with some existing Hive usages (e.g. pointing EXTERNAL tables at 
system-owned files).
+ 
+ It was generally agreed that #3 is the ideal configuration, but we'll be 
dealing with configurations #1 and #2 for some time while waiting for various 
pieces to fall into place.
+ 
+ Shyam mentioned some ongoing work on real-time Hadoop that might be an 
interesting project for Hive collaboration.
+ 
+ Next meeting will be at Cloudera.
+ 

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