Thanks for the clarification Daryn. That is what I was asking before when I 
said "From my limited understanding, this doesn't seem like a API or a 
compatibility issue. Can we not fix it in subsequent bug-fix releases? "

Now, I was wavering as to whether we can omit this or not. There are other such 
things like YARN-1082 (RM restart doesn't work in security), YARN-49 
(dist-shell in secure mode) etc. that is essentially a loss of some 
functionality in some cases (secure mode).

Flipping back the question, aren't we okay release now with all the API changes 
that are already in and then immediately follow up with a bunch of bug-fix 
releases or wait till 'everything' gets fixed.

Posing the question like that, I am willing to move ahead without waiting for 
these fixes, but that's just me.

What do others think?

Thanks,
+Vinod

On Aug 19, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Daryn Sharp wrote:

> I've been OOO (got a call to fix this bug), but just to clarify:
> 
> We're ok with HA _not working at all_ with security enabled in 2.1.0-beta?  
> That's the ramification of omitting HADOOP-9880.
> 
> Daryn
> 
> On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote:
> 
>> Yep, there are quite a number of such fixes in 2.1.1 ATM, I think it will 
>> serve us better to get 2.1.0 out and then quickly turn around to make 2.1.1.
>> 
>> My current plan is to start work on 2.1.1 right after this release gets 
>> complete… hopefully next week.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Arun
>> 
>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli 
>> <vino...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> There are other such isolated and well understood bug-fixes that we pushed 
>>> to 2.1.1 in the interesting of making progress with 2.1.0 and the 
>>> corresponding API changes.
>>> 
>>> 2.1.1 should happen soon enough after this.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> +Vinod
>>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What are the downsides of getting this fix into the 2.1? It appears
>>>> that the fix is pretty isolated and well understood.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Roman.
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Kihwal Lee <kih...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>> I've changed the target version of HADOOP-9880 to 2.1.1.  Please change 
>>>>> it back, if you feel that it needs to be in 2.1.0-beta.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kihwal
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Kihwal Lee <kih...@yahoo-inc.com>
>>>>> To: Arun Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com>; "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" 
>>>>> <common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>> Cc: "mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org" <mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org>; 
>>>>> "hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org" <hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>; 
>>>>> "yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org" <yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 4:55 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Hadoop 2.1.0-beta
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's your call, Arun.  I.e. as long you believe rc2 meets the 
>>>>> expectations and objectives of 2.1.0-beta.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kihwal
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Arun Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>> To: "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" <common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>> Cc: Kihwal Lee <kih...@yahoo-inc.com>; "mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org" 
>>>>> <mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org>; "hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org" 
>>>>> <hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>; "yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org" 
>>>>> <yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 3:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Hadoop 2.1.0-beta
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That makes sense too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
>>>>> <vino...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We need to make a call on what blockers will be. From my limited 
>>>>>> understanding, this doesn't seem like a API or a compatibility issue. 
>>>>>> Can we not fix it in subsequent bug-fix releases?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do see a lot of follow up releases to 2.1.0. Getting this release out 
>>>>>> will help downstream projects start testing with all the API stuff that 
>>>>>> has already gone in 2.1.0.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> +Vinod
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Kihwal Lee wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have found HADOOP-9880, which prevents Namenode HA from running with 
>>>>>>> security.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kihwal
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Arun C Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>> To: "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" <common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>; 
>>>>>>> "hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org" <hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org>; 
>>>>>>> "mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org" <mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org>; 
>>>>>>> "yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org" <yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:15 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Hadoop 2.1.0-beta
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've created a release candidate (rc2) for hadoop-2.1.0-beta that I 
>>>>>>> would like to get released - this fixes the bugs we saw since the last 
>>>>>>> go-around (rc1).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The RC is available at: 
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~acmurthy/hadoop-2.1.0-beta-rc2/
>>>>>>> The RC tag in svn is here: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/hadoop/common/tags/release-2.1.0-beta-rc2
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The maven artifacts are available via repository.apache.org.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please try the release and vote; the vote will run for the usual 7 days.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> Arun
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> http://hortonworks.com/
>>>>>>> 
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