Yeah, this would be great, so some guys like me won't need to trouble you 
asking the question again and again :). Thanks a lot.

Regards,
Kai

-----Original Message-----
From: Akira AJISAKA [mailto:ajisa...@oss.nttdata.co.jp] 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Zheng, Kai <kai.zh...@intel.com>; common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: Different JIRA permissions for HADOOP and HDFS

There is no doc.

1. Login to ASF JIRA
2. Go to the project page (e.g. 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP ) 3. Hit "Administration" tab 4. 
Hit "Roles" tab in left side 5. Add administrators/committers/contributors

I'll document this in https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HowToCommit

Regards,
Akira

On 6/20/16 16:08, Zheng, Kai wrote:
> Thanks Akira for the nice info. So where is the link to do it or any how to 
> doc? Sorry I browsed the existing wiki doc but didn't find how to add 
> contributors.
>
> Regards,
> Kai
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akira AJISAKA [mailto:ajisa...@oss.nttdata.co.jp]
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:22 PM
> To: Zheng, Kai <kai.zh...@intel.com>; common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Different JIRA permissions for HADOOP and HDFS
>
> Yes, the role allows committers to add/remove all the roles.
>
> Now about 400 accounts have contributors roles in Hadoop common, and about 
> 1000 contributors in history.
>
> Regards,
> Akira
>
> On 6/19/16 19:43, Zheng, Kai wrote:
>> Thanks Akira for the work.
>>
>> What the committer role can do in addition to the committing codes? Can the 
>> role allow to add/remove a contributor? As I said in my last email, I want 
>> to have some contributor(s) back and may add more in some time later.
>>
>> Not sure if we need to clean up long time no active contributors. It may be 
>> nice to know how many contributors the project has in its history. If the 
>> list is too long, maybe we can put them in another list, like 
>> OLD_CONTRIBUTORS.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kai
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Akira AJISAKA [mailto:ajisa...@oss.nttdata.co.jp]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:56 PM
>> To: Zheng, Kai <kai.zh...@intel.com>; common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Different JIRA permissions for HADOOP and HDFS
>>
>> I'm doing the following steps to reduce the number of contributors:
>>
>> 1. Find committers who have only contributor role 2. Add them into 
>> committer role 3. Remove them from contributor role
>>
>> However, this is a temporary solution.
>> Probably we need to do one of the followings in the near future.
>>
>> * Create contributor2 role to increase the limit
>> * Remove contributors who have not been active for a long time
>>
>> Regards,
>> Akira
>>
>> On 6/18/16 10:24, Zheng, Kai wrote:
>>> Hi Akira,
>>>
>>> Some contributors (not committer) I know were found lost and we can't 
>>> assign tasks to. Any way I can add them or have to trouble others for that 
>>> each time when there is a new one? Thanks!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kai
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Akira AJISAKA [mailto:ajisa...@oss.nttdata.co.jp]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:47 AM
>>> To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Different JIRA permissions for HADOOP and HDFS
>>>
>>> Now I can't add any more contributors in HADOOP Common, so I'll remove the 
>>> contributors who have committers role to make the group smaller.
>>> Please tell me if you have lost your roles by mistake.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Akira
>>>
>>> On 5/18/16 13:48, Akira AJISAKA wrote:
>>>> In HADOOP/HDFS/MAPREDUCE/YARN, I removed the administrators from 
>>>> contributor group. After that, added Varun into contributor roles.
>>>> # Ray is already added into contributor roles.
>>>>
>>>> Hi contributors/committers, please tell me if you have lost your 
>>>> roles by mistake.
>>>>
>>>>> just remove a big chunk of the committers from all the lists
>>>> In Apache Hadoop Project bylaws, "A Committer is considered 
>>>> emeritus by their own declaration or by not contributing in any 
>>>> form to the project for over six months." Therefore we can remove 
>>>> them from the list, but I'm thinking this is the last option.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Akira
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/16 09:07, Allen Wittenauer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We should probably just remove a big chunk of the committers from 
>>>>> all the lists.  Most of them have disappeared from Hadoop anyway.
>>>>> (The 55% growth in JIRA issues in patch available state in the 
>>>>> past year alone a pretty good testament to that fact.)
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there some way for us to add a "Contributors2" group with the 
>>>>>>> same permissions as a workaround?  Or we could try to clean out 
>>>>>>> contributors who are no longer active, but that might be hard to figure 
>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Contributors2 seems fine. AFAIK, committers sometimes cleaned out 
>>>>>> contributors who are no longer active.
>>>>>> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uOzYt77s6mnzcRu1/v=threaded
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another option: Can we remove committers from contributor group 
>>>>>> to reduce the number of contributors? I've already removed myself 
>>>>>> from contributor group and it works well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Akira
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/16 03:16, Robert Kanter wrote:
>>>>>>> We've also had a related long-standing issue (or at least I 
>>>>>>> have) where I can't add any more contributors to HADOOP or HDFS 
>>>>>>> because JIRA times out on looking up their username.  I'm 
>>>>>>> guessing we have too many contributors for those projects.  I bet YARN 
>>>>>>> and MAPREDUCE are close.
>>>>>>> Is there some way for us to add a "Contributors2" group with the 
>>>>>>> same permissions as a workaround?  Or we could try to clean out 
>>>>>>> contributors who are no longer active, but that might be hard to figure 
>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Ray Chiang 
>>>>>>> <rchi...@cloudera.com <mailto:rchi...@cloudera.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Similar issue for me.  I can't modify HDFS and HADOOP JIRAs now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -Ray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Varun Saxena
>>>>>>>    <vsaxena.va...@gmail.com <mailto:vsaxena.va...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > Hi,
>>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>>    > I do not have permissions for any project other than YARN as well.
>>>>>>>    Unable
>>>>>>>    > to assign a JIRA in MAPREDUCE for instance.
>>>>>>>    > Can somebody give me permission ?
>>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>>    > Regards,
>>>>>>>    > Varun Saxena.
>>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>>    > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Vinayakumar B <
>>>>>>>    > vinayakumarb.apa...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:vinayakumarb.apa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>>    > > Thanks Akira.
>>>>>>>    > > On 17 May 2016 10:59, "Akira Ajisaka" <aajis...@apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:aajis...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > >
>>>>>>>    > > > Hi Vinay,
>>>>>>>    > > >
>>>>>>>    > > > Added you into committer roles for HADOOP/MAPREDUCE/YARN.
>>>>>>>    > > >
>>>>>>>    > > > Regards,
>>>>>>>    > > > Akira
>>>>>>>    > > >
>>>>>>>    > > > On 5/17/16 13:45, Vinayakumar B wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >
>>>>>>>    > > >> Hi Junping,
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >> It looks like, I too dont have permissions in projects except
>>>>>>>    HDFS.
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >> Please grant me also to the group.
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>    > > >> -Vinay
>>>>>>>    > > >> On 17 May 2016 6:10 a.m., "Sangjin Lee" <sj...@apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:sj...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >> Thanks Junping! It seems to work now.
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Junping Du
>>>>>>>    <j...@hortonworks.com <mailto:j...@hortonworks.com>>
>>>>>>>    > > wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >> Someone fix the permission issue so that Administrator,
>>>>>>>    committer and
>>>>>>>    > > >>> reporter can edit the issue now.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> Sangjin, it sounds like you were not in JIRA's committer
>>>>>>>    list before
>>>>>>>    > > and
>>>>>>>    > > >>> I
>>>>>>>    > > >>> just add you into committer roles for 4 projects. Hope it
>>>>>>>    works for
>>>>>>>    > > >>> you now.​
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> Junping
>>>>>>>    > > >>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>    > > >>> *From:* sjl...@gmail.com <mailto:sjl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>    <sjl...@gmail.com <mailto:sjl...@gmail.com>> on behalf of Sangjin
>>>>>>>    > Lee <
>>>>>>>    > > >>> sj...@apache.org <mailto:sj...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2016 11:43 PM
>>>>>>>    > > >>> *To:* Zhihai Xu
>>>>>>>    > > >>> *Cc:* Junping Du; Arun Suresh; Zheng, Kai; Andrew Wang;
>>>>>>>    > > >>> common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>; yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> *Subject:* Re: Different JIRA permissions for HADOOP 
>>>>>>> and HDFS
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> I also find myself unable to edit most of the JIRA fields,
>>>>>>>    and that
>>>>>>>    > is
>>>>>>>    > > >>> across projects (HADOOP, YARN, MAPREDUCE, and HDFS).
>>>>>>>    Commenting and
>>>>>>>    > the
>>>>>>>    > > >>> workflow buttons seem to work, however.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Zhihai Xu <zhi...@uber.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:zhi...@uber.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> Great, Thanks Junping! Yes, the JIRA assignment works for me
>>>>>>>    now.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>> zhihai
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Junping Du
>>>>>>>    <j...@hortonworks.com <mailto:j...@hortonworks.com>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>> Zhihai, I just set you with committer permissions on
>>>>>>>    MAPREDUCE JIRA.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>> Would
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> you try if the JIRA assignment works now? I cannot help on
>>>>>>>    Hive
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>> project. It
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> is better to ask hive project community for help.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> For Arun's problem. from my check, the Edit permission on
>>>>>>>    JIRA only
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> authorized to Administrator only. I don't know if this
>>>>>>>    setting is
>>>>>>>    > by
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> intention but it was not like this previously.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Can someone who make the change to clarify why we need
>>>>>>>    this change
>>>>>>>    > or
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> revert to whatever it used to be?
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Junping
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> From: Arun Suresh <asur...@apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:asur...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:42 AM
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> To: Zhihai Xu
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Cc: Zheng, Kai; Andrew Wang; common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>;
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org 
>>>>>>> <mailto:yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Different JIRA permissions for HADOOP 
>>>>>>> and HDFS
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Not sure if this is related.. but It also looks like I am
>>>>>>>    now no
>>>>>>>    > > longer
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> allowed to modify description and headline of JIRAs 
>>>>>>> anymore..
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Would appreciate greatly if someone can help revert this !
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> -Arun
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Zhihai Xu
>>>>>>>    <zhi...@uber.com <mailto:zhi...@uber.com>>
>>>>>>>    > wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> Currently I also have permission issue to access the JIRA.
>>>>>>>    I can't
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> assign
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> the JIRA(I created) to myself. For example,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-6696 and
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-13760. I can't
>>>>>>>    find
>>>>>>>    > the
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> button
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> to assign the JIRA to myself.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> I don't have this issue two three weeks ago. Did anything
>>>>>>>    change
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> recently?
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> Can anyone help me solve this issue?
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> zhihai
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:22 AM, Zheng, Kai
>>>>>>>    <kai.zh...@intel.com <mailto:kai.zh...@intel.com>
>>>>>>>    > >
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> It works for me now, thanks Andrew!
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> From: Andrew Wang [mailto:andrew.w...@cloudera.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:andrew.w...@cloudera.com>]
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:14 AM
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> To: Zheng, Kai <kai.zh...@intel.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:kai.zh...@intel.com>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> Cc: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Different JIRA permissions for 
>>>>>>> HADOOP and HDFS
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> I just gave you committer permissions on JIRA, try now?
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Zheng, Kai <
>>>>>>>    > kai.zh...@intel.com <mailto:kai.zh...@intel.com>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> I just ran into the bad situation that I committed
>>>>>>>    HDFS-8449 but
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> resolve the issue due to lacking the required permission
>>>>>>>    to me.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> not
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> sure if it's caused by my setup or environment change
>>>>>>>    (temporally
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> working in a new time zone). Would anyone help resolve
>>>>>>>    the issue
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> me to avoid bad state? Thanks!
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> From: Zheng, Kai [mailto:kai.zh...@intel.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:kai.zh...@intel.com>]
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:20 PM
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> To: Allen Wittenauer 
>>>>>>> <allenwittena...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Cc: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Different JIRA permissions for 
>>>>>>> HADOOP and HDFS
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Thanks Allen for illustrating this in details. I
>>>>>>>    understand. The
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> question is, is it intended only JIRA owner (not sure
>>>>>>>    about admin
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> users) can do the operations like updating a patch?
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Kai
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> From: Allen Wittenauer [mailto:
>>>>>>>    > allenwittena...@yahoo.com.INVALID]
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:38 AM
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> To: Zheng, Kai <kai.zh...@intel.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:kai.zh...@intel.com>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Cc: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
>>>>>>>    <mailto:common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Different JIRA permissions for 
>>>>>>> HADOOP and HDFS
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> On May 14, 2016, at 7:07 AM, Zheng, Kai
>>>>>>>    <kai.zh...@intel.com <mailto:kai.zh...@intel.com>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>> Noticed this difference but not sure if it’s intended.
>>>>>>>    YARN is
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> with HDFS. It’s not convenient. Any clarifying?
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>         Under JIRA, different projects (e.g.,
>>>>>>> HADOOP, YARN,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> MAPREDUCE,
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> HDFS, YETUS, HBASE, ACCUMULO, etc) may have different
>>>>>>>    settings.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> one point in time, all of the Hadoop subprojects were
>>>>>>>    under one
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> project (HADOOP). But then a bunch of folks decided they
>>>>>>>    didn’t
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> to see the other sub projects issues so they split them
>>>>>>>    up…. and
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> thus
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> setting the stage for duplicate code and operational
>>>>>>>    divergence
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> the
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> source.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>         Since people don’t realize or care that they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> separate,
>>>>>>>    > > >>
>>>>>>>    > > >>> people will file INFRA tickets or whatever to change “their
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> project”
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> and not the rest. This leads to the JIRA projects also
>>>>>>>    diverging…
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>> which ultimately drives those of us who actually look
>>>>>>>    at the
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>> as
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>> a whole bonkers.
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>    > > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > > >>>>
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