Hi Konstantin,

Thanks a lot again for your efforts.

+1  (non-binding)

-Built from the source on Suse-Linux with jdk_ 1.8.0_40
-Installed the HA cluster
-Verified basic shell commands
-Ran sample jobs
-Did the regression on IBR Feature, Balancer/mover,fsck

Downloaded the latest tarball, it contains the native and nodemanger can start 
(NM will not start without native). And install pseudo cluster and did basic 
verification.

IMHO, we should include natives in the tarball for user convenience (who 
doesn't have build tool can use for quick regression) 

As we are separately giving hadoop-2.7.4-RC0-src.tar.gz, still we need to 
include /src in tarball..?

As Andrew mentioned, these two are regression to prior release.


--Brahma Reddy Battula

-----Original Message-----
From: Konstantin Shvachko [mailto:shv.had...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 August 2017 09:57
To: Chris Douglas
Cc: Andrew Wang; Allen Wittenauer; common-dev@hadoop.apache.org; 
hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org; mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org; 
yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Hadoop 2.7.4 (RC0)

Uploaded new binaries hadoop-2.7.4-RC0.tar.gz, which adds lib/native/.
Same place: http://home.apache.org/~shv/hadoop-2.7.4-RC0/

Thanks,
--Konstantin

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Chris Douglas <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Konstantin Shvachko 
> <shv.had...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > For the packaging, here is the exact phrasing from the sited
> release-policy
> > document relevant to binaries:
> > "As a convenience to users that might not have the appropriate tools 
> > to build a compiled version of the source, binary/bytecode packages 
> > MAY be distributed alongside official Apache releases. In all such 
> > cases, the binary/bytecode package MUST have the same version number 
> > as the source release and MUST only add binary/bytecode files that 
> > are the result of compiling that version of the source code release and its 
> > dependencies."
> > I don't think my binary package violates any of these.
>
> +1 The PMC VOTE applies to source code, only. If someone wants to
> rebuild the binary tarball with native libs and replace this one, 
> that's fine.
>
> My reading of the above is that source code must be distributed with 
> binaries, not that we omit the source code from binary releases... -C
>
> > But I'll upload an additional tar.gz with native bits and no src, as 
> > you guys requested.
> > Will keep it as RC0 as there is no source code change and it comes 
> > from
> the
> > same build.
> > Hope this is satisfactory.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Konstantin
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Andrew Wang 
> > <andrew.w...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with Brahma on the two issues flagged (having src in the 
> >> binary tarball, missing native libs). These are regressions from 
> >> prior
> releases.
> >>
> >> As an aside, "we release binaries as a convenience" doesn't relax 
> >> the quality bar. The binaries are linked on our website and 
> >> distributed
> through
> >> official Apache channels. They have to adhere to Apache release 
> >> requirements. And, most users consume our work via Maven 
> >> dependencies, which are binary artifacts.
> >>
> >> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html goes into this in 
> >> more detail. A release must minimally include source packages, and 
> >> can also include binary artifacts.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Konstantin Shvachko < 
> >> shv.had...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> To avoid any confusion in this regard. I built RC0 manually in
> compliance
> >>> with Apache release policy
> >>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html
> >>> I edited the HowToReleasePreDSBCR page to make sure people don't 
> >>> use Jenkins option for building.
> >>>
> >>> A side note. This particular build is broken anyways, so no 
> >>> worries
> there.
> >>> I think though it would be useful to have it working for testing 
> >>> and
> as a
> >>> packaging standard.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --Konstantin
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Allen Wittenauer < 
> >>> a...@effectivemachines.com
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > > On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Konstantin Shvachko <
> >>> shv.had...@gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HowToReleasePreDSBCR
> >>> >
> >>> >         FYI:
> >>> >
> >>> >                 If you are using ASF Jenkins to create an ASF 
> >>> > release artifact, it's pretty much an automatic vote failure as 
> >>> > any such
> >>> release is
> >>> > in violation of ASF policy.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

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