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| Docker | Client=17.05.0-ce Server=17.05.0-ce Image:yetus/hadoop:8f97d6f |
| JIRA Issue | HADOOP-15999 |
| JIRA Patch URL | 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12961163/HADOOP-15999.008.patch
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| git revision | trunk / 0aefe28 |
| maven | version: Apache Maven 3.3.9 |
| Default Java | 1.8.0_191 |
| findbugs | v3.1.0-RC1 |
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https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-HADOOP-Build/16016/testReport/ |
| Max. process+thread count | 341 (vs. ulimit of 10000) |
| modules | C: hadoop-tools/hadoop-aws U: hadoop-tools/hadoop-aws |
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> S3Guard: Better support for out-of-band operations
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-15999
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-15999
>             Project: Hadoop Common
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: fs/s3
>    Affects Versions: 3.1.0
>            Reporter: Sean Mackrory
>            Assignee: Gabor Bota
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: HADOOP-15999-007.patch, HADOOP-15999.001.patch, 
> HADOOP-15999.002.patch, HADOOP-15999.003.patch, HADOOP-15999.004.patch, 
> HADOOP-15999.005.patch, HADOOP-15999.006.patch, HADOOP-15999.008.patch, 
> out-of-band-operations.patch
>
>
> S3Guard was initially done on the premise that a new MetadataStore would be 
> the source of truth, and that it wouldn't provide guarantees if updates were 
> done without using S3Guard.
> I've been seeing increased demand for better support for scenarios where 
> operations are done on the data that can't reasonably be done with S3Guard 
> involved. For example:
> * A file is deleted using S3Guard, and replaced by some other tool. S3Guard 
> can't tell the difference between the new file and delete / list 
> inconsistency and continues to treat the file as deleted.
> * An S3Guard-ed file is overwritten by a longer file by some other tool. When 
> reading the file, only the length of the original file is read.
> We could possibly have smarter behavior here by querying both S3 and the 
> MetadataStore (even in cases where we may currently only query the 
> MetadataStore in getFileStatus) and use whichever one has the higher modified 
> time.
> This kills the performance boost we currently get in some workloads with the 
> short-circuited getFileStatus, but we could keep it with authoritative mode 
> which should give a larger performance boost. At least we'd get more 
> correctness without authoritative mode and a clear declaration of when we can 
> make the assumptions required to short-circuit the process. If we can't 
> consider S3Guard the source of truth, we need to defer to S3 more.
> We'd need to be extra sure of any locality / time zone issues if we start 
> relying on mod_time more directly, but currently we're tracking the 
> modification time as returned by S3 anyway.



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