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Aaron Fabbri commented on HADOOP-16279:
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Good discussion, thanks.
{quote}AF> ... when data from S3 conflicts with data from MS....
 GB> I would say this is out of scope for this issue. We would like to solve 
only the metadata expiry with this, and not add policies for conflict 
resolution.
{quote}
Yes. I didn't mean it should be part of this JIRA, just sketching the larger 
design that this fits within.
{quote}SL>we shouldn't support pruning file entries if the client is in auth 
mode
{quote}
Why not just clear the authoritative bit on the parent dir? I thought we 
already did that.

 Looking at your Prune comments next [~gabor.bota].

 

> S3Guard: Implement time-based (TTL) expiry for entries (and tombstones)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-16279
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-16279
>             Project: Hadoop Common
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: fs/s3
>            Reporter: Gabor Bota
>            Assignee: Gabor Bota
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: Screenshot 2019-05-17 at 13.21.26.png
>
>
> In HADOOP-15621 we implemented TTL for Authoritative Directory Listings and 
> added {{ExpirableMetadata}}. {{DDBPathMetadata}} extends {{PathMetadata}} 
> extends {{ExpirableMetadata}}, so all metadata entries in ddb can expire, but 
> the implementation is not done yet. 
> To complete this feature the following should be done:
> * Add new tests for metadata entry and tombstone expiry to {{ITestS3GuardTtl}}
> * Implement metadata entry and tombstone expiry 
> I would like to start a debate on whether we need to use separate expiry 
> times for entries and tombstones. My +1 on not using separate settings - so 
> only one config name and value.
> ----
> Notes:
> * In HADOOP-13649 the metadata TTL is implemented in LocalMetadataStore, 
> using an existing feature in guava's cache implementation. Expiry is set with 
> {{fs.s3a.s3guard.local.ttl}}.
> * LocalMetadataStore's TTL and this TTL is different. That TTL is using the 
> guava cache's internal solution for the TTL of these entries. This is an 
> S3AFileSystem level solution in S3Guard, a layer above all metadata store.
> * This is not the same, and not using the [DDB's TTL 
> feature|https://docs.aws.amazon.com/amazondynamodb/latest/developerguide/TTL.html].
>  We need a different behavior than what ddb promises: [cleaning once a day 
> with a background 
> job|https://docs.aws.amazon.com/amazondynamodb/latest/developerguide/howitworks-ttl.html]
>  is not usable for this feature - although it can be used as a general 
> cleanup solution separately and independently from S3Guard.
> * Use the same ttl for entries and authoritative directory listing
> * All entries can be expired. Then the returned metadata from the MS will be 
> null.
> * Add two new methods pruneExpiredTtl() and pruneExpiredTtl(String keyPrefix) 
> to MetadataStore interface. These methods will delete all expired metadata 
> from the ms.
> * Use last_updated field in ms for both file metadata and authoritative 
> directory expiry.



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