Hi Keith, 

thanks sincerely for the advice and relating your experiences.

regards
Peter Cogan


On 21 May 2012, at 18:57, Keith Wiley wrote:

> Hubris aside (mine I mean), I'm probably not qualified to be the last word on 
> this with regard to advising you on your project's overall direction, so 
> hopefully others will chime in on this discussion...but that said, when I 
> started with hadoop a few years ago and our project exceed the capabilities 
> of direct-Java hadoop interfacing, we briefly entertained the notion of pipes 
> and learned (to the best of my recollection) that pipes was officially losing 
> its support within the hadoop community (it may have even been depricated 
> although I don't remember for sure) and that streaming was being officially 
> advocated as the replacement (unless I am grossly exaggerating the advice I 
> received at the time).  In fact, the primary reason I abandoned pipes wasn't 
> so much that the technology itself wouldn't work, but that there was far less 
> community support for it than for streaming, so whenever I got stuck I 
> couldn't really ask for help (or I could ask but I would be inquiring a much 
> smaller pool of potential responders, thus decreasing the scope of any 
> response).
> 
> At any rate, I have been quite satisfied with streaming.  Gotchas have 
> included coding from a scratch an entire partially abstract C++ class family 
> to offer a streaming interface to communicate between hadoop and underlying 
> native processing, to say nothing of coding up binary/ascii conversion in a 
> variety of formats to shuffle data across the i/o streams (for reasons I 
> can't recall now, the binary streaming interface wasn't a good option for us 
> at the time).
> 
> Still, all's well.
> 
> Best of luck.
> 
> On May 21, 2012, at 10:26 , Peter Cogan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Keith, 
>> 
>> Yeah - maybe that was my first mistake. Since I haven't had much luck 
>> getting pipes working I've started looking at streaming. I am still 'early 
>> in my hadoop efforts' so now is the time for big course corrections
>> 
>> thanks
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 21 May 2012, at 18:11, Keith Wiley wrote:
>> 
>>> Mind if I ask why you prefer pipes to streaming?  I abandoned pipes early 
>>> in my hadoop efforts and went all engines full on streaming.
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2012, at 04:07 , Peter Cogan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to install pipes on os x following the instructions here
> 
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