What needs to be changed Peter?  Explicitly state it in a
proposal/vote/patch and let's do it.

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:41 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release
> 
> 
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 06:46, Sam Ruby wrote:
> > *** Note to mailing list ***
> >
> > This mailing list seems to have attracted too many people who feel 
> > compelled to get the last word in every discussion.  Aren't 
> satisfied 
> > with mere apologies or detailed explanations, but insist on 
> bringing 
> > up the same issues again and again.
> >
> > For the moment, try to forget the past.  Instead, try to figure out:
> 
> you seem to be saying that a bit lately? ;)
> 
> >    * where we are
> >
> >    * where we want to be
> >
> >    * the best way to get there
> 
> If you want for Avalon to move all its components across then 
> there is one 
> thing that needs to be changed. Same thing as it was when Commons was 
> incepted, same thing I have been saying for ages. If working 
> with Avalon is 
> not desired then nothing needs to be changed.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> Pete
> 
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