It is not my opinion about logging, but this problem exists and reported a few times for logging and lang (possible it nothing about this in bugzilla). Some solutionsare proposed a few months ago too.
I have "karma" on commons, but as I understand I need to ask active commiters before to add myself to status.html and commit something. Do I need to submit diff files and wait for response first ? Howdy, >I was reported a few moths ago, but I see it is not fixed in current CVS That's because "completely undocumented, useless and broken" isn't a bug report. It's a misplaced rant at best. >can I add myself to logging comiters list and fix this problem ? No, you can't make yourself a committer. You are welcome to open bug reports in BugZilla and submit patches to them. The patches shouldn't be consistent with the established project conventions. In time, you may become a committer pending a vote from other committers. Look here for more details: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html http://jakarta.apache.org/site/contributing.html http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/volunteering.html http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/patches.html >It is not possible to solve all problems with current API. That sounds very determined. I disagree, but I'm not interested enough to get into a debate. >"I'm getting really angry at commons-logging. I thought I'd never find >anything worse than Tomcat, but the Jakarta folks did it again: I won't make any comment about the quality of hibernate itself, as I haven't used it. I have used tomcat and log4j extensively, contributed to both. I've also used hibernate, and found TopLink superior, so I don't use hibernate anymore. >just used System.out (log4j has crazy bugs, too). But Hibernate uses That is just amusing ;) Same thing applies to submitting bugs and patches to commons-logging as it does to log4j. >Please, can we reduce the Jakarta dependencies in Hibernate? I see no >real use for log4j and commons logging. The standard is the JDK, and if >1.4 is not available, fall back to a selfwritten simple stdout default." It's good to have options ;) No one made the hibernate authors use tomcat/log4j/commons-logging to start with. No one says tomcat/log4j/commons-logging are perfect. I'm not going to go about fixing commons-logging acknowledged classloading issues. But with the spirit of the above quoted message, I doubt the poster is going to get much cooperation ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
