the problem is that the code needs a *lot* of refactoring before the functionality that consider the minimal for a full release can be added. there's also going to be a lot of deprecated code that will need to be removed before it's ready. this means that probably one or two minor 0.x releases would be needed. (a secondary issue is that now i'm not on the pmc i don't feel able to cast binding vote on legally important issues or cut releases so even if the work was done, someone else would need to act as release manager.)
i've been working on a major refactoring of betwixt for a long time now but i've also got a number of local versions with extra bits and pieces in. unfortunately, too much of my time has been taken up with jakarta stuff in the last few months and i haven't been able to sort out this mess :(
now that i've finished with that, i should have more coding time :)
i've made some progress on the refactoring recently but i've neglected a lot of other projects i'm interested in and have a lot of catching up to do.
realistically i'm not going to be in a position to put the refactored stuff in cvs for a while yet. (i'm very committed to backwards compatibility and the final details of the design aren't clear in my mind yet though the broad outline is). if there's interest from other committers i could think about tidying the refactored stuff up and putting it into a branch so that we can talk about the design.
- robert
On 29 Dec 2003, at 14:38, Tim O'Brien wrote:
Understood. I'm in the same boat as you.
Let me know if you need any release support. In the meantime, if you find
yourself overburdened, let's start delegating.
I'm surprised that we have enough time to talk about all these philosophical J-C vs. A-C issues, or even debating author tags when something as important as Betwixt sits in an Alpha for so long.
Tim
On 29 Dec 2003, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Hi Tim,
On my part that almost all my "resources" go to my gui framework xulux
on codehaus, my work, my newly acquired family and preparation for my
new house. I try to organize a "betwixt" night so now and then, but that
is hardly enough time to get a new release out the door.
Robert is probably busy (or on a holiday?) and James has moved on to
other projects.
So currently betwixt is a bit asleep and wakes up so know and then when
I can schedule a betwixt night.
Mvgr, Martin
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:55, Tim O'Brien wrote:Betwixt is a very useful component, and a number of people would like to
start using it in production systems.
Could someone give a quick update as to why Betwixt is still at a 1.0 alpha? and, also provide a timeline for a 1.0 release.
Tim
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