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------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2004-12-07 15:11 -------
What would the order of arguments be for each message in your last example? 
What would be the order if you remove the position="0" from the args?

I think the positions should be assigned per validator so 'required' and 'mask'
args don't affect each other's positions.  The question then is how to handle
default args?

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