On 17 Dec 2004, at 01:56, Richard Sitze wrote:

robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on
12/16/2004 04:38:34 PM:

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the solution i've been considering is to separate the base
application-environmental configuration from the sophisticated
discovery process required to ensure proper isolation in complex
managed server environments. (i'm not going to describe this in detail
right now: i should post a code example but i'm tired so that'll have
to wait.)

I will eagerly await, and will compare your thoughts to what is described
in the original proposal. For reference, please note that the proposal
can be found here:


http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32618

i've added some thoughts onto some new wiki pages linked from http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/Logging.


where does byte-code engineering come in? well, there are certain
things that users want that are just not going to be feasible no matter
how sophisticated a discovery process is employed. too much complexity
leads to fragility in the discovery code: providing rewiring at the
byte-code level would allow users great control and relieve the
commons-logging development team of the burden of creating every more
complex discovery code.

And other teams... this *must* be addressed independently from Logging.

+1

- robert


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