Craig McClanahan wrote:
Don't you get to this same result by creating your own URLClassLoader
for each "assembly", with its own set of JARs and/or directories
making up its "class path"?

Haha, yes you probably do get the same result! I for one just didn't understand what this type of a solution would look like until we hashed it out in more detail. If we skipped over your original post, it was (for me, at least) because we didn't understand it :)


Craig

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:03:50 -0500, Matt Sgarlata
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Chris Lambrou wrote:

Matt Sgarlata wrote:


Does this mean .NET doesn't have reflection?  That's such a killer
feature of Java; I can't believe they wouldn't have ported it to .NET.
Any .NET developers out there that can tell us how .NET deals with
reflection when you have multiple versions of the same class?


Since the class name alone is insufficient to fully identify a specific
version of a class, to my knowledge there is no equivalent to
Class.forName(String classname) in .NET. Instead, .NET has the Assembly
class. An Assembly is roughly akin to a java jar file, and is typically
a single DLL that contains one or more classes. Assembly has a
non-static getType(String typeName) method, that performs the same job
as the static Class.forName(String classname) method in java, but for a
specific Assembly instance. There is never any ambiguity over which
version of the named Type that is returned, since an Assembly can only
contain one version of any given class. Support for multiple versions of
a class at runtime is achieved by storing those multiple class versions
in separate Assemblies.

Thanks for the info, Chris! This definitely sounds like a good approach. Now my question is, can we simulate this in a new commons component? :)

Here are the steps I would imagine to be involved:
1) Define our own JAR sub-type to mirror the .NET assembly notion.
Include some type of a plain-text file that describes the versions of
the software required to perform certain tasks.  It would be nice to do
this in an existing structure like MANIFEST.MF, but I don't know... are
you allowed to add arbitrary information to that file?  In any case, we
wouldn't use the existing dependency descriptors because that would
prevent multiple versions of the same class from being loaded.
2) Call org.apache.commons.assembler.Assembler.getType(String
assembledPackage, String className).  The Assembler would then go to the
assemblyPackage path on the classpath and search the plain-text file
from step #1 which would list the versions of classes that are required
by the given assembledPackage.  For example, if assembledPackage was the
Digester, which required collections 3, the assembledPackage would be
org.apache.commons.digester.  A dynamic proxy or generated bytecode
would be loaded that fulfilled the given contract and that would be
returned to the client.  Any existing code that is just calling
Class.forName would have classes looked up in the normal way, so we
would need to make sure that this dynamic proxy doesn't get loaded into
the JVM in the same way as Class.forName (this is where the dynamic
proxy and/or bytecode generation comes in)

What do you guys think?  Does this sound feasible?  I'd rather spin this
as a commons component than a J2SE 1.6 enhancement request, because the
later will take years to come to fruition.


Chris

Matt


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