On 8/15/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/15/05, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The only bad part about that is Outlook will still show the "new mail" icon
> > on my system tray even if the rule permanently deletes it.  I don't know why
> > we force all the developers to receive the CVS (subversion) notifications.
> 
> Not all ASF lists do it, some have separate lists for the cvs notifications.
> 

Personally, I am -1 on separate commit lists for any project that I'm
a developer on.  Yes, I'm aware that this is not a universally held
opinion.

Open source is about building communities -- and communities at Apache
are about people who care about the *code*, not just the *use* of the
code.  If you only want to use the code, subscribe to the user list. 
If you do care about the development of the code, you *should* also
care about what commits have occurred -- if you don't, you're not
being a responsible member of the development community, performing
the review tasks that Hen mentioned.

Yes, Jakarta Commons is a slightly unusual beast because it
amalgamates quite a few semi-independent communities.  But, the
reasons we share dev and user mailing lists (encouraging the
HttpClient folks to separate is something I regret, in retrospect) are
also the same reasons we should all be paying attention to all of the
commits.  There is not enough "community" on individual subprojects to
do reasonable review otherwise.

If you don't care enough to filter out the projects you don't care
about (or don't work creatively enough to subscribe with a mail client
suitable for the task :-), then don't subscribe to the dev list. 
That's why we have user lists too.

Craig

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