James Carman wrote:
Sylvain,
I like the idea. I think the line-precise error reporting feature in
Tapestry/HiveMind is very helpful and other projects could benefit from it.
However, I would seriously doubt that we could get either project (Howard,
correct me if I'm wrong) to migrate over to using it because of the
reluctance to introduce another dependency.
Rather than another dependency, the biggest problem for projects that
already have such a feature exposed to users would be the code migration
leading to some compatibility problems (although some adapters can be
used to ease the transition).
This fear of "jar hell" (we
really need to come up with a formal name for that phobia) seems to limit
inter-project dependencies a lot here at Apache. I doubt I'll ever even get
HiveMind to switch over to using commons-proxy as a core dependency, even
though I think it would make it tremendously more developer-friendly and
extensible.
Strange. Adding a dependency on a commons-* looks like something easy to
me exactly because it is a commons, meaning code that emerged from
people wanting to avoid reinventing the wheel.
Just because we don't "eat our own dog food" doesn't mean that others might
not like a taste (my dogs seem to eat each others food almost exclusively)!
:-) Has this code been developed entirely inside the Cocoon source
repository here at ASF (it has not "lived" anywhere else)?
No IP problems of any kind, as I wrote this for Cocoon back in July.
It's fairly new, but already started spreading all over in Cocoon :-)
If so, then it
shouldn't be too tough to get a commons-sandbox project started for this (no
software grant would be necessary from what I understand). You have my +1
for starting a project in the sandbox for this code (not that I think it's
needed, but I just like to vote on random things). I don't see any harm in
it. If it never makes it out of the sandbox due to lack of community
interest, so be it. If cocoon wants to migrate to using it, then that
would make it all the more likely that it would make it out of the sandbox,
though.
Well, Cocoon will of course be the first user of this package!
Sylvain
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