On 3/23/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> jakarta's charter is tied to the java language. IMHO the board is very
> unlikely to make the same mistake again (language independent groupings
> are preferred). this means that we cannot accept dot net code here
> (which is one reason why jakarta is gradually deconstructing itself).
>
> the board formed a commons project at apache a few years ago. they had
> it in mind that commons components might decide to move from jakarta to
> commons and new committers might be interested in cross language ports.
> it didn't work out that way and the commons project was closed. a lot of
> energy was invested in that effort and it is likely to take a lot of
> energy to persuade people to give something like that a second chance.
>
> so, sadly i'm not hope that there is much chance (at the moment) of a
> dot net port finding a home here at jakarta.

This is interesting as a, say, .net port of commons-collections is
closely tied to commons-collections, or not ? So where should it live
?

> apache has changed fast in the last few years: evolving in an attempt to
> scale. now new code bases need to come in through the incubator. it's
> worth posting a proposal there. it's more language agnostic.

Is the incubator also intended for new projects ? I thought it is for
bringing existing code bases into Apache ?

> but don't be too disappointed if the reaction is more or less: come back
> once you have bootstrapped a community. i know that this is the most
> difficult part of the process but react positively and try to get as
> many community building tips as possible from the folks on list. it's
> just possible that you might be able to pick up a developer or two as
> well.
>
> it's definitely possible for this project like this to succeed without
> the apache brand and i agree it's worthwhile too. IMHO you probably need
> as much energy and knowledge to successfully bootstrap a project within
> or without apache. one good resource is http://producingoss.com. use a
> blog to promote your project. release often. it takes time to establish
> a new project and gain momentum so don't worry if you're plowing a
> lonely furrow in the early days. invest time encouraging people to get
> involved in your community. spend a few dollars buying a .org domain
> (there are cheap now). if you host at sorceforge use subversion 'cos
> it's great.

A .Net port would IMO have a lot in common (no pun intended) with a
Java 5 'port', and there is at least one such project at SourceForge,
right ?

cheers,
Tom

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