On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 15:58 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote: > On 5/23/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jochen Wiedmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is a pmc'er over in web services > > land. Jochen would like commons karma > > (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-general/200605.mbox/% > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to help work on file-upload. > > > Since when did we start inviting people into Jakarta based on their first > (AFAIK) proposed - and not yet accepted - patch? Has anyone looked at the > patch? I haven't seen any discussion on it, and I know that I'm not going to > have time to look at it until the weekend, long after this vote will have > closed, apparently.
sorry - i didn't intend to cause any offence. IMO fileupload isn't inactive. perhaps i didn't make it clear enough that my intention for a vote for jakarta karma only. i probably made a misjudgement in calling for a 48 hour vote only. it sets a bad precedent. > This is nothing personal against Jochen - I don't know him at all - and is > not related to the fact that his contribution is for FileUpload. I'm just > very concerned at how low we're setting the bar these days. i admit that i do have a lower bar for existing apache committers (in general) and for committers i know and trust (in particular). my personal matrix involves an estimate of how much energy i'll need to spare to effectively mentor them. IMHO it's a hard judgement call. i've been too conservative in proposing committers in the past. hopefully people will continue to jump in and correct me if i start going too far the other way... > I, for one, do not subscribe to the "Some of the guys over in project X think > Fred is OK, > so he must be OK" modus operandum. i'm the guy you're talking about :-) jochen's ok by me. i've worked with him for a number of years. i trust him enough to propose him as a jakarta committer. but i'm glad you raised this as a more general issue and i'd like to hear you expand your opinions... > Are we really saying that we'll allow > other projects to decide on who merits commit access to Jakarta? That's what > Hen appears to be saying, and I object strongly. personally speaking, i would be very happy for a low bar for existing apache committers. jakarta karma can be obtained on request in any case (in order to work on sandbox components). but i don't see that being the same thing at all as allowing unrestricted access to work on existing components. i hope that social pressures would be enough (as they have proved to be in the past). - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
