On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 16:05 +1300, Simon Kitching wrote: 
> On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 03:38 +0100, Torsten Curdt wrote:
> > >
> > > Definitely happy to give M2 a try; but I'd rather not change the
> > > groupId on a bugfix release. We already have an M2 release in
> > > FileUpload that didn't change the groupid so that's not a worry. Plus
> > > I want to get it done quickly :)
> > 
> > Ah ...my "+1 for changing the groupId" was not meant for this bugfix  
> > release.
> > It would be good to change it for new major releases though.
> > 
> 
> I expect that this will be the last ever release of commons-logging.
> There are no features missing, no known bugs, and as support for java
> 1.4 is now generally universal there is no reason for applications not
> to use the java.util.logging API directly.
> 

Hi Simon,

This is a little bit of a shocker to me. Does your opinion represent the
collective opinion of the JCL developers? Do I interpret your message
correctly that JCL has been effectively deprecated, there will be no
work done toward JCL 2.0 and the upstream projects that currently depend
on JCL are advised to migrate to JUL?

Cheers,

Oleg

> Note that java.util.logging is an *API*, and the implementation bundled
> in Sun's jdk is not the only choice (see JULI for example).
> 
> Changing the group-id is something that can only be done on a release,
> so it seems sensible to do it for 1.1.1 even if this is just a "bugfix"
> release.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Simon
> 
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