On 5/23/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 5/23/07, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think there's another issue here.
>
> Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers
> in the proposal.
>
> Also, many current commons committers aren't on the proposed list.
Yup thats disappointing.
Maybe not all of them follow general@ - I'm crossposting.
> It seems that we're not voting on that specific proposal, rather just
> the idea to move, and that a lot of people are being disenfranchised
> by not being listed.
Its down to people to add themselves to the TLP resolution (they were
invited to do so) - if people are disenfranchised then its their own
choice.
I don't know about that. It seems that a discussion and proposal
taking place on a different list isn't being as inclusive as we should
be.
> Wouldn't it be better if the initial list came from the svn acl?
Would seem wrong to put people on the list without their consent.
It would also seem wrong to 'remove' someone's commit access to the
code by moving it to a TLP without at least keeping the dev list
informed.
Niall
> On 5/23/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.
> > >
> > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to
TLP.
> > >
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution
> > >
> > > Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added
> > > your name yet.
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 I support the proposal
> > > [ ] +0 I don't care
> > > [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because...
> > >
> > > Voting will close in one week.
> >
> > Quick summary of this thread 28 Votes for (23 binding), 4 against (3
> > binding). Seems to me that those objecting don't seem to have
> > pursuaded people to change their vote. At what point do we decide on a
> > result?
> >
> > Votes +1 (* indicates binding)
> > ========
> > 1. Henri Yandell(*)
> > 2. Dennis Lundberg(*)
> > 3. Mladen Turk(*)
> > 4. Torsten Curdt(*)
> > 5. Oliver Heger(*)
> > 6. Robert Burrell Donkin(*)
> > 7. Stephen Colebourne(*)
> > 8. Daniel F. Savarese(*)
> > 9. Martin Cooper(*)
> > 10. Mark Thomas(*)
> > 11. Niall Pemberton(*)
> > 12. Stefan Bodewig(*)
> > 13. Phil Steitz(*)
> > 14. Jörg Schaible(*)
> > 15. Jean-Frederic(*)
> > 16. Henning Schmiedehausen(*)
> > (conditional on The TLP proposal matching the template)
> > 17. Nick Burch
> > 18. Davanum Srinivas(*)
> > 19. Thomas Vandahl
> > 20. Oliver Zeigermann(*)
> > 21. Rony G. Flatscher(*)
> > 22. Scott Eade(*)
> > 23. Yegor Kozlov
> > 24. Luc Maisonobe
> > 25. Mario Ivankovits(*)
> > 26. Roland Weber(*)
> > 27. Andrew Oliver(*)
> > (think this was a vote for, voted -1 to Commons=Jakarta)
> > 28. Jesse Kuhnert
> >
> > Added themselves to the TLP Proposal but didn't vote(?)
> > ====================================================
> > 1. Jochen Wiedmann
> > 2. Martin van den Bemt(*)
> > 3. Matt Benson
> > 4. Rory Winston(*)
> > 5. Joerg Pietschmann
> >
> > Objections / Votes -1
> > =====================
> > 1. Petar Tahchiev
> > - sees no direct benfits for Commons
> > 2. Ted Husted(*)
> > - Strike Java from resolution or don't hijack "Commons" Name
> > 3. Simon Kitching(*)
> > - Will erect walls we took down
> > - like Ted doesn't want java to monopolise "commons" name
> > 4. Danny Angus(*)
> > - preserve the Jakarta brand
> > - Wants Jkarata==Jakarta Commons
> > - thinks Commons should sort out Jakarta problems
> >
> > Bile & Nonsense
> > ===============
> > Jean Carlo Salas
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