David, anyone can use Axiom as an efficient XML Infoset representation. Thomara is an implementation of XML Encryption and XML Signature on top of that representation + XML Canonicalization.

Only a (small) subset of people who use Axiom would need this stuff - anyone using WS-Security etc. obviously does. There is no intrinsic connection to Axiom to say that it should be in the Axiom subproject of commons.

On your concern of having small projects with a small community, that's *exactly* why we created commons-dev to be a common dev list for all these small projects. They're small subprojects because they're independent / orthogonal components which can be combined as desired.

I have no objection to considering a move of Axiom to TLP, but that has nothing to do with this project. Orthogonal conversation; let's do it separately.

AFAIK thomara has no meaning in Sinhalese but prolly my poor knowledge of Sinhala will be exposed by that statement ;-).

Sanjiva.

David Illsley wrote:
Thanks for the information. I'm generally unconvinced by the argument
that having an optional 100KB axiom-xmlsecurity module counts as
'bloat'. To me it's better for users for it to be part of Axiom
because information about this additional functionality that Axiom
users may wish to use will be more obvious. From an Apache
perspective, I think having it part of Axiom would have a couple of
advantages...
1. Fewer dependency projects which need to be lined up for new
releases of e.f. Axis2/Rampart2
2. Giving it a separate name encourages people to think of it as
something separate and owned by a separate community which, given the
size of the codebase seems unnecessary. I think it does properly
belong as part of the Axiom community

David

P.S. What does 'thomara' mean and have you done the appropriate name checks?


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