On Tue June 16 2009 1:58:51 am Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
> +1, I also agree that Security Policy stuff should be ideally in WSS4J or
> Neethi and eventually we should make WSS4J security policy aware. Both
> Rampart and CXF will benefit from that.

The first step is to just get a common set of policy objects.   The CXF model 
and builders for the WS-SecurityPolicy stuff is pretty much a port of the 
Rampart model, but cleaned up a lot (to avoid a lot of duplicate code), 
updated to Java 5, and additional policy objects created for some of the stuff 
Rampart doesn't yet handle (like KeyValueToken).    Getting those into a 
shareable state is a good thing.   I think it would eliminate the entire 
rampart-policy module.   

As far as making WSS4J security policy aware and using those policies, 
definitely doable long term, but not really a huge priority at THIS point.  
Possibly just pulling the *BindingBuilder stuff from CXF.   Not really sure as 
I haven't thought enough about it.    It definitely could have benefits for 
other users of WSS4J (like Spring WebServices and others). 

Basically, the steps for that are:
1) Agree on changes to Neethi to allow for:
2) Create the common/shareable WS-SecurityPolicy model
3) Use (2) in wss4j to make it policy aware.  

I'm more concerned right now with the first two bullets.  One (or maybe two) 
steps at a time.    :-)   

Dan



> thanks,
> Nandana
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Some of you have noticed some discussions on WSCOMMONS-299.   I've also
> > been
> > thinking about some of those issues and I DID have a discussion with Glen
> > Daniels at TSSJS about the possibility of starting work on a Neethi 3.0.
> > With the comments and stuff on WSCOMMONS-299, it might be time to really
> > start
> > it.   Thus, I'd like to "svn cp" the trunk to a 2.x branch for future
> > maintenance and start making trunk 3.0.
> >
> > Things I'd like tackled for 3.0:
> >
> > 1) Java 5 - make the collections and everything typed.  Use Enums where
> > appropriate, etc....  Basically, general cleanup.   Also, I see that many
> > operations aren't threadsafe due to use of HashMap's with no
> > synchronization.
> > Possibly fix those with ConcurrentHashMaps or similar.
> >
> > 2) Better support for the nested policies as described in WSCOMMONS-299.
> >
> > 3) Change the builders to use XMLStreamReader.   The Policies use
> > XMLStreamWriter.  For consistency, using the reader is preferred.   This
> > also
> > removes Axiom as a dependency making the requirement list smaller.
> >
> > 4) With (3) fixed, most of the Neethi "fork" we have in CXF can be ported
> > back.  CXF has a few utilities and such that would be good to push back
> > and then remove from CXF.
> >
> > 5) Once all of that is done, it would open up the door to allow some more
> > "common" Policies objects for standard policies.   Some could be in
> > Neethi directly (things like policies objects for WS-Addressing
> > assertions, mtom stuff, etc...).    Others, like the WS-SecurityPolicy
> > stuff could either go into Neethi or might be better in WSS4J.   This
> > could help eliminate a BUNCH
> > of duplicate code between users of Neethi, particularly CXF and Rampart.
> > (maybe if I keep pushing similar code down into commons, we can have a
> > big merger in the future.  Acxfis 3?  Maybe not.  :-) )
> >
> > 6) Support for WS-Policy 1.5.
> >
> > Anyway, if no one really objects to starting the 3.0 work, I'd like to
> > create
> > the 2.x branch later this week.    Thoughts?
> >
> > BTW: This is also why I STRONGLY am in favor of Neethi staying in commons
> > and
> > not going to an Axis2 TLP.
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dk...@apache.org
> > http://www.dankulp.com/blog

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