> come along) and work from there - we need to process around 70,000 
> requests a minute.

But not concurrently, right? So, the memory overhead is (No of concurrent connections) 
* (buffer size). Even if you had 1,000 concurrent SOAP requests, with 2K buffer you 
would still end up with 2,048 * 1,000 bytes. Allow me to speculate that even a fairly 
modern PDA would be able to afford that amount of memory overhead. Am I missing 
something too?

Oleg

-----Original Message-----
From: John Keyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 17:29
To: Commons HttpClient Project
Subject: Re: streaming request body


On 24 Feb 2004, at 16:22, Kalnichevski, Oleg wrote:

>
>> But a *segment* will be held in memory prior to writing to the output
>> stream though.  For XXX,000 requests I think this is an unreasonable
>> memory overhead.
>
> John,
> Just to make sure I understand you correctly, you are saying that your 
> application will be processing XXX,000 requests *concurrently*? What 
> kind of application is it, if I may ask you?

It's a SOAP processor - we just want to stop using the J2SDK connection 
class, hide the connection class behind an API (in case other impls 
come along) and work from there - we need to process around 70,000 
requests a minute.

-John K

>
> Oleg
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Keyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 16:59
> To: Commons HttpClient Project
> Subject: Re: streaming request body
>
>
> On 24 Feb 2004, at 14:36, Stefan Dingfelder wrote:
>
>> John Keyes schrieb:
>>
>>>> For (a), Oleg's response is correct. You might easily be confused,
>>>> in  the sense that HttpClient's API inverts the control. It is not
>>>> that  you write to an "OutputStream" to send your data, it is that
>>>> you  provide HttpClient with an "InputStream", and it reads that
>>>> stream and  sends the data. HttpClient is designed to accomodate
>>>> your concern, and  if your configuration is correct (as per the
>>>> examples), it will not  buffer the entire contents of your
>>>> InputStream, but rather read it and  send it in small chunks. As
>>>> another post points you, you may still  have to buffer what you're
>>>> sending to *disk*, but not to memory.
>>>
>>>
>>> So you think buffering all requests to disk to support streaming is
>>> an  acceptable solution?  If I am dealing with XXX,000 of requests
>>> that  sure as hell would suck with all the disk I/O going on.  Does
>>> this not  suggest that there is a problem with the architecture?
>>>
>> I am missing something here from both views. Maybe I am wrong but as I
>> understand it, I can provide any InputStream. And that must not be a
>> file on disk (which I dislike also - except for large files or live
>> streams that cannot be put to memory in total) but can be any object
>> in memory. So in case of sending it there should be no problem..
>> Correct?
>
> Correct.
>
> But a *segment* will be held in memory prior to writing to the output
> stream though.  For XXX,000 requests I think this is an unreasonable
> memory overhead.
>
> I am looking at avoiding using Sun's connection class as it buffers all
> of the content prior to writing to the wire.
>
> -John K
>
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