Well, I view this as a technical question. I have no
intention to use the
code for automated querying and this is for my
experiment of the HttpClient.
Google happens to be the URL i choose. There could be
another host that does
similar things as google, but does not enforce similar
terms. And the issue
would still be there right? I am asking a technical
question here, but your
points are taken.

Thanks

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Commons HttpClient Project"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: Cannot use HttpClient to search google

> <html><head><title>403 Forbidden</title>....
> <blockquote><H1>Forbidden</H1>Your client does not
have permission to
> get URL
<code>/search?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=sql+server+trace</code>
> from this server.  (Client IP address:
xx.xx.xx.xx)<br><br>Please see
> Google's Terms of Service posted at
> http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html
> ....
>
> I guess the main reason is google uses akamai's
network to distribute
> loads.

No it means you should read the terms of service,
specifically the part
about not using "screen-scraping" techniques to
programatically perform
searches (which is what you're trying to do).  You
should use the
Google SOAP search service instead as it will make
your life a lot
easier.

It would not be appropriate to discuss ways around the
technical
limitations Google uses to enforce their terms of
service on an Apache
Software Foundation mailing list.

The particular section of the Google ToS that I
believe applies here is
listed under the "Personal Use Only" and "No Automated
Querying"
headings.

Information on Google's SOAP APIs is available at
http://www.google.com.au/apis/ (note they also have
terms of service)

Finally, sorry if this seems abrupt, it is important
for the ASF to
clearly not support use of their products in any way
that may cause
legal trouble.  If you feel you are following the
terms of services for
Google and I've missed something then my apologies.

Regards,

Adrian Sutton.

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