Hi Chris,

The definition, in terms of the policy discussion, is detailed here;
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Sexual_content#Definition

It's worth a look, and I hope it's reasonably clear.

You asked why I felt sexual content is more likely to cause harm than other
situations, or the Saudi example - I don't think I did say that? What I was
trying to say anywhoo is simply that sexual content carries a fairly high
risk of causing harm if published without consent. I gather OTRS volunteers
confirm that the people who get in touch upset about sexual images of
themselves published on commons are often distraught - I'd like us to avoid
this, and I don't really feel it's helpful to obfuscate the issue with other
matters of potential concern - that's just my thoughts.

cheers,

Peter,
PM.


On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Chris McKenna <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, private musings wrote:
>
> > You might consider sexual content as material which has a fairly high
> risk
> > of causing harm if published without consent, I guess.
> Why do you think "sexual content" (however that vauge term is defined)
> more likely to cause harm if published than any other situation?
> What "harm" is done surely depends on a combination of the individual
> depicted, their attitude they have to whatever it was they were
> doing, the laws of the country that person resides in, the laws of the
> country the photograph was taken in, the attitude of the law enforcement
> of both places, the attitude of the media in both those places, the
> attitude of the general public in both those places.
> For example a photograph of a high-profile Saudi Arabian woman wearing a
> very conservative one-piece swimsuit has the potential to cause more harm
> than a photograph of the genitals of an adult French man with no high
> publuc profile while he is having vanilla sex with an adult French woman
> with an equally low public profile.
>
> >
> > Further, I think that we currently only require consent of privately
> taken
> > photos if the person is identifiable - so for example if someone were to
> > upload an image of them have sex with their ex-boyfriend, and perhaps
> only
> > his genitals are visible, then under current practice, commons would not
> > require his consent to publish this picture - I'm suggesting that it's
> > probably best if we do require consent from all parties, for all sexual
> > content (see the proposal page for specific definitions) - really because
> I
> > do tend to think it's a higher risk for causing harm.
>
> Why would an image of an unidentifiable man's genitals cause more harm
> than an image of an identifable man shoplifiting for example?
>
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