On 11/23/2010 10:01 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
> On 11/22/2010 10:24 PM, Michael Peel wrote:
>> In my opinion, the Wikimedia Foundation should very seriously look into 
>> starting something like wikidata.
> One major problem is that different people have very
> differing understanding of what "wikidata" should mean.
> It is an abstract good, similar to "world peace" or
> "democracy" -- or Wikimedia's "usability" project,
> that introduced slow and broken Javascript instead
> of actually increasing usability. With this background
> I would advise against starting a "wikidata" project.
>
> What should be started is something smaller and
> more focused, that solves some actual problem.
> This is like asking for "freedom of the press" or
> "women's suffrage" rather than abstract "democracy".
>
> So, which concrete, smaller ambitions could you list?
>
>

Sure, but the problem small steps only address small problems and do not
build a foundation to fix larger issues. A series of template hacks,
bots and external indexers could address most small ambitions, but a
unified underlining structure would bring many greater 'ambitions'
within reach. For example if we just wrote a one off system to
exclusively handle interlanguage links, it would not be nearly as useful
as a system that tied these inerlanguage links together as multilingual
labels for relational data. ( Apples are fruits, even when they are
'Manzanas' and 'Fruta', something that would be wholly lost in the 'one
off' solution.

To borrow from your analogy you need a "constitution" before "freedom of
the press" or "womens suffrage" makes any sense, else every movment is
extrodinary laborious, can't build on any other effort and is exclusive
to a single problem for a single set of people.

--michael



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