Could you explain what you mean with GLAM? Not anyone is used to such terms.

Greatings from Tobias Oelgarte


Am 16.05.2011 16:52, schrieb Gnangarra:


On 16 May 2011 22:46, Tobias Oelgarte <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Do it in your freetime and not at work?

Such a simplistic and ignorant response, I just pointed out for GLAMs to contribute the people doing it are at work its part of their work.

    Am 16.05.2011 16:43, schrieb Gnangarra:
    Tobias

    Please explain how does one participate when their employment
    contract specifically states that viewing of sexually explicit
    material over the internet is a dismissable offense.

    The issue isnt hosting the image its about where its displayed.

    On 16 May 2011 22:32, Tobias Oelgarte
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Just logged in, so please bear with the possible wrong entry
        place.

        I strongly disagree with the removal. Not because that it is
        an image
        that i created. Because this is some kind of censorship, that
        goes
        strictly against the aims of the project itself. Some topics
        are fine
        and anybody can laugh about them, for some topics nobody
        cares and some
        topics causing confusion, hate and are a general nuisance.
         The later
        mostly because of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge.

        But which kind of world will we describe? The world how it is
        - the
        truth? Or do we want to select some mild topics and enjoy
        little bunnies
        on a field with dozens of flowers, while one house away bombs
        fall and
        the doughters of the family begging for money? Isn't it a bit
        ridiculous
        to select topics and to show only the bright sides?

        Im just wondering why illustrations of war machines are ok, while
        anything that is related to sexual nature is considerd as
        evil. Some
        saying that they couldn't tell there children what such
        images are
        about. But what about a picture of a gun? Can you explain to your
        children, why people kill each other? You should and could at
        least try
        to explain. The earilier the better. Kids have an open mind,
        that i miss
        so much in this project.

        Reading the words of Sarah Stierch, someone could assume that
        a picture
        of a naked male is fine. Do we get more female contributers
        by treating
        them as some special, out of the oridinary? At the last
        meetings in
        Germany i met several women, most complaining about this
        rather "useless
        campaing", that they even found "discriminating".

        Back to the topic itself. Did you even know, that half of the
        mangaka
        are females? Works like "Kodomo no Jikan" are written by
        female authors.
        Sexuality is a primary topic. No one could life without it.
        Depictions
        of sexuallity are known for thousands of years. And that is
        the point
        where i start wondering. While old works are seen as
        something relevant,
        new works aren't. Why not? They are from our time. In the
        time we life.

        Sorry for my English. But English isn't my main language.

        Tobias Oelgarte


        Am 16.05.2011 16:24, schrieb Chris McKenna:
        > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
        >
        >> The image is also not artistically, historically, or
        culturally significant,
        >> unlike all the other examples you cited.
        > Please cite your sources for the (lack of) artistic,
        historic, or cultural
        > significance for this image and all the other examples cited.
        >
        >> The only reason it's featured is
        >> because it's sexually arousing to anime fanboys who happen
        to dominate the
        >> culture of Wikimedia Commons.
        > Citation needed for a /very/ offensive remark.
        >
        >> I don't need to crawl into a semantic
        >> rabbit-hole to defend this observation.
        > Why? Please be objective, preferably include references to
        reliable
        > sources.
        >
        >> I think its obvious to any
        >> reasonable person. If the image would be embarrassing to
        pull up in front of
        >> a classful of students, it shouldn't be on the Commons
        Main Page.
        > Please define "reasonable person" in an objective,
        culturally neutral way.
        > Please list an objective set of culturally neutral criteria
        that would
        > allow any image to be safely displayed to any given group
        of people in a
        > way that does not introduce censorship or cultural bias.
        >
        > "Not censored" means just that. If you aren't happy that
        some images that
        > offend you (or you find offensive on others' behalf) might
        be displayed
        > then you should not use Wikimedia Commons.
        >
        > Chris
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