On 6 June 2011 08:35, Pedro Sanchez <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Rama Neko <[email protected]> wrote: > > For the "Show respect" thing, I'd go as far as saying something to the > > effect of > > > > "do not photograph if it is not allowed, do not use you flash, do not > > attempt in any way to 'steal' photographs, as the quality will be poor > > and the short-term thrill and benefits are vastly exceeded by the > > long-term grudge and lack of confidence that the institution will hold > > towards us". > > > > -- Rama > > > > I disagree on two accounts. > > First, it's an usage guide. It assumes you already have the PD work > available for use, so the photograph point is moot. > > Second, even if it were referring to the process of obtaining (not > using), many places impose groundless restrictions (as if they owned > copyright, and every use of the work had to be approved by them). > Supporting this position implicitly says we agree that a PD work is > not actually available. > > The current form is indeed good. It's about how-to-use PD content, > showing respect > * Don't imply you use is endorsed. (It may or may not, but don't imply it) > * Point out any modification (so it doesn't get confused with the > original work) > * Properly label the credits for any modification > > All about general and desirable conditions on how to use, not how you > get the PD content. > > -- > Pedro Sánchez > http://drini.mx > @combinatorica > > I agree with what Pedro has said here. This proposed guideline on Commons is about how we should treat the digital objects that have been donated to Commons - not about how to obtain more. Rama - what you have said is true and I agree with the principles you've listed, but perhaps http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Guide_to_content_partnerships is a better place to put that kind of advice.
Sincerely, -Liam
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