Good news. I received an email back from Catherine Draycott who is the Head of Wellcome Images. She said that they were very much interested in uploading Wellcome's CC-BY images to the Commons, and suggested we talk on the phone. I was going to suggest that we:
a) get the project described at [1] b) coordinate work here on commons-l c) talk to the GLAMToolset [2] folks who have been working with Europeana and other GLAM organizations to bulk upload images d) think about how Wellcome's Wikipedia in Residence [3] could help facilitate the upload Does that sound like a reasonable way to proceed? If anyone else would like to be on the call let me know. If there is a Commons veteran who has experience with bulk uploading and is willing to work with the Wellcome Trust in a constructive way I’m willing to just tag along on the call and let them take the reigns as it were. //Ed PS. Congratulations on the wedding Liam :-D [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Batch_uploading [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GLAMToolset_project [3] https://cancer-research-uk-jobs.tal.net/vx/appcentre-External/brand-2/candidate/so/pm/1/pl/4/opp/482-Wikipedian-in-Residence/en-GB On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Liam Wyatt <[email protected]> wrote: > I see this was also announced on the WM-UK blog - > http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/01/wellcome-images-freely-releases-100000-images/ > > I've copied in Jonathan who is the WMUK GLAM coordinator in case he's had any > involvement in Wellcome's announcement. Perhaps he can lend insight? > > I've worked on quite a few image-release negotiations and it is possible that > this has been done this way through honest mistake, through justifed fears, > through meddling of the legal/marketing departments.... I quite like Andy > Mabbett's comment on Wellcome's blog announcement, sums up the problems > (legal and technological) quite well in my opinion: > > "It’s great to have these images available, digitally, but why are you > claiming copyright over, and to be the original source of, artworks and > images from books which are already in the public domain? Why have you added > a strapline underneath each image? And why is the precess of downloading high > resolution versions of these public-domain works so tortuous, with a CAPTCHA, > irrelevant terms & condition, and zipped files – why not make them available > directly?" - (comment no.3) > http://blog.wellcomelibrary.org/2014/01/thousands-of-years-of-visual-culture-made-free-through-wellcome-images/ > > I also agree with Andy's response here - to chose option 2b - take the images > that we can, label them as PD and *politely* explain (preferably in person) > why we do not legally recognise their CC-BY claim even though we WILL make > every effort to attribute properly. While we're at it, I would point Wellcome > to the Europeana PD charter > http://pro.europeana.eu/web/europeana-project/public-domain-charter-en > > -Liam > > > wittylama.com > Peace, love & metadata > > > On 22 January 2014 09:42, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> wrote: > On 21 January 2014 16:53, Magnus Manske <[email protected]> wrote: > > > So, we have the following options: > > > > 1. Ignore them (pity) > > Not going to happen; note work-in-progress, and discussion, at: > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Batch_uploading/Wellcome_Images_CC-BY > > > 2. Upload them as public domain and re-iterate the National Portrait Gallery > > issue, and teach them that these open content wiki people are not to be > > trusted > > 2b politely explain to WT that their licence statement is in error, > and why, and that even if people in the UK abide by it, it is > unenforceable internationally. > > > 3. Label them CC-BY so the Wellcome Trust can get a mandatory attribution, > > which we would do anyway > > No, for the reasons stated by Christoph, and in the Commons discussion > cited above. And we would not advise re-users that the attribution is > mandatory. > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > GLAM mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam > > _______________________________________________ > GLAM mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
