Just a thought as bad this is, WMF could just run a server in a juristiction where copyright isnt an issue but WMF does need to act in a socially responsible way and with the highest standards of respect for our goals, our community and the laws.
Maybe it would be possible to have a limited fair use type provision on Commons for important images where they are out of copyright in the country of origin, but not in the US, with a minimum requirement of the work being used in two different language wikipedias. It'll be complicated to enforce and will take a lot of discussion to work out the policy and processes.... On 18 June 2014 20:39, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > Given the investment in so many data centres in the USA and the lack of > investment in cache servers around the world this is highly unlikely to be > even feasible. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 18 June 2014 14:33, Neel Gupta <[email protected]> wrote: > >> First SOPA, now This ! >> US Copyright laws restricting Wikimedia servers from hosting what could >> be Public Domain around the World. >> ...At this point, I think it would be a good idea to start a discussion >> on whether to move the Wikimedia servers out of US jurisdiction. >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Rama Neko <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Commons is supposed to host images that we can guarantee are Free. It is >>> by hosting images that we wish were free, or images that we could imagine >>> to be Free, or images that we don't know to be copyrighted, that we harm >>> the project. An image for which there is a reasonable doubt is an image >>> that does not belong on Commons, period. >>> >>> As for the question of consensus, it is perfectly proper to ignore >>> opinions based on wishful thinking or ignorance. This is a technical issue, >>> and knowledgeable technocrats rightfully have precedence over dilettantes >>> and militants. >>> >>> To conclude, I fully sympathise and concur with those of us who find >>> national laws and copyright durations to be excessively tilted against >>> users. I bring to their attention that by twisting and ignoring these laws, >>> we play into the hand of their defenders: firstly by offering them the >>> argument that their regulations do not in fact stifle expression; and >>> secondly by exposing ourselves to legal action that can be brought to bear >>> whenever convenient to their interests. >>> -- Rama >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17 June 2014 08:17, Neel Gupta <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Then it will be impossible to upload any image to the commons, except >>>> by artists & photographers. >>>> I expect USA to expand copyrights to an additional 100 years, in a >>>> hundred years, making entrance of Copyrighted works into Public Domain >>>> impossible. >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Copyright_term.svg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Images on Commons must be public domain in both the source country and >>>>> the US. The images are definitely copyrighted in the US. The question is >>>>> whether they are copyrighted due to following US formalities or due to the >>>>> URAA. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Commons-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > > -- GN. Vice President Wikimedia Australia WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com
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