Hoi,
A category includes images that have shared characteristics. The problem
with categories is that they are error prone, mistakes are made or they are
just not added or understood. A category like "Frisian stallions" has
obviously stallions of the Frisian breed in them. When an image is known
to have a "Friese stamboekhengst" in Dutch, you do not need to add a text
for "Frisian stallion". Because one is the translation of the other. You
can search for all the paintings by 文森·梵谷 and tind the same paintings I
would when I seek them for Vincent van Gogh.
There is nothing wrong with having categories at this time. It is just that
once we add statements, the same information will be available in every
other language. We cannot do it now. The whole current issue with Wikidata
is not that relevant as it will change when development time is put into
place and have Wikidata type annotations and queries in a way that is not
only but also English.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 30 August 2015 at 20:37, Steinsplitter Wiki <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>The problem with Commons is that its categories will be largely
> redundant once Wikidata type technology will replace them
>
> Can you elaborate please? What is replacing commons category system?
>
> ...
>
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> From: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 20:30:36 +0200
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to
> Commons
>
> Hoi.
> The problem with Commons is that its categories will be largely redundant
> once Wikidata type technology will replace them, It will be just a question
> of having a query for the result that you want.. If you want to have fences
> in mauve, by all means, query for it but there may be the surprise that
> there are none.
>
> Creating items for categories for Commons is imho an exercise in
> futility.. What is the point after all ? Having those categories may mean
> that we have a clue what queries are of interest..So when people add those
> categories, it is current best practice.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 30 August 2015 at 16:51, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> the problem I see is that commons will always have more categories than
> wikipedia can have articles take fences, commons has wooden fences this
> broken into many cats including wooden fences in a country, this then grows
> and then gets broken into sub national entities while the number of
> articles on wikipedia remains at one commons now has 196 country articles
> with anything between 5 and 50 sub national entities, then some idiot
> paints his fence now we have wooden fences by colour in a little over 3000
> pantone colours....
>
>
> What I'm seeing here is solution that has the horse pushing the cart
> problem lies not in linking commons cats to wikipedia articles wikidata but
> in ensuring wikidata articles are linked to the full range of categories
> available on commons and that those links can be easily adjusted as
> necessary
>
> On 30 August 2015 at 18:42, Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Luca Martinelli, 30/08/2015 12:03:
>
> Am I the only one that thinks that jheald's .js is a temporary solution?
> Am I the only one that actually appreciate his attempt at solving a
> *practical* problem by providing a *practical* solution,
>
>
> It might be a practical solution, but I don't understand what it solves:
> what's the practical problem?
> Quoting from the project chat, the problem to me seems this: «2.4 millions
> categories are not connected to corresponding Wikipedia articles. [...] —
> Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 20:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC)».
>
> Nemo
>
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