No new wikidata feature on commons whiteout community consensus please. This 
stuff seems to be very controversial.
(#shellpolicy, #community-consensus-needed)

From: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:38:35 +0200
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to      
Commons

Hoi,
Killing categories on Commons is a bit premature. Until the time we start 
working in earnest on Commons, it is probably not the categories we will do 
first. Easiest and more obvious are data that is of relevance and is kept in 
templates like the "Creator" or the "Institution" template. As it is, a 
majority of them are already linked to Wikidata. Making a complete change for 
having this data in Wikidata means that such information is available in all 
languages. Another aspect is in data like licenses and similar info. That could 
be done easy as well because it is already largely structured.

Categories on Commons are "peculiar". It will be interesting what the 
discussions will be once it will be discussed in earnest.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 13 September 2015 at 20:39, Daniel Schwen <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,

before we write off the category system (as

living-in-the-future-Gerard seems to do ;-) we should probably rather

think about killing galleries. All of them. Completely. Galleries

require a considerable maintenance overhead, and I would argue that

that work is better spent on categorizing our content. We could

replace galleries by allowing select images to retain high level

categories (for example through a template so the don't accidentally

get diffused down the tree). The captions in galleries are just an

i18n nightmare and a data duplication of the description texts.

This does not entirely solve the problem of still having the Creator

namespace, but if were up to me, we'd _not_ interwikilink there, but

rather to the "Works by .." category, because that is what I think

people expect to find on commons: Images

Cheers,

Daniel



On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Michael Peel <[email protected]> wrote:

>

>> On 28 Aug 2015, at 18:40, Reguyla <[email protected]> wrote:

>>

>> This is one reason I create the pahbricator request for Commons to have its 
>> own Site box rather than fall under "Other wiki's". That would allow us to 
>> link an item to its corresponding Gallery, Category, Creator or whatever. 
>> Right now we can only like to Commons category via the Other Wiki's and 
>> although we can link Galleries, Creator and the like as data items, they are 
>> not "linked" as site links.

>

> This would be very useful - I think this would be a good way forward that 
> would avoid the whole 'page vs. category' debate. The Phabricator ticket is 
> at:

> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102417

>

> Thanks,

> Mike

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