>>I'm sure we can find a suitable place to discuss this on-wiki, and there 
>>should be an appropriate link for that.


I see Sara posted it on the VP as well: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Blog_post:_interview_with_George_Oates_about_Wikimedia_Commons


:)


>>As for the actual topic of the interview, I am glad to see an outside opinion 
>>from someone who has experience with large, community-driven media 
>>repositories. I might not agree with all the sentiments, and structured data 
>>and out Next Big Thing did not exactly feature prominently, but I find it 
>>refreshing to leave the echo chamber once in a while.


This is true as well.

BTW: If my initial post sounded a bit rude, please excuse for that. 😊

--Steinsplitter

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Von: Commons-l <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Magnus 
Manske via Commons-l <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2018 15:43
An: Walter Siegmund; Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
Betreff: Re: [Commons-l] new blog post: interview with designer George Oates 
about Wikimedia Commons

Some quick thoughts from me.

I, too, find the Facebook/Medium discussion reroute unfortunate (I'm not even 
on Facebook), though it might help attract some more newcomers. I'm sure we can 
find a suitable place to discuss this on-wiki, and there should be an 
appropriate link for that.

As for the actual topic of the interview, I am glad to see an outside opinion 
from someone who has experience with large, community-driven media 
repositories. I might not agree with all the sentiments, and structured data 
and out Next Big Thing did not exactly feature prominently, but I find it 
refreshing to leave the echo chamber once in a while.

Cheers,
Magnus

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:23 PM Walter Siegmund via Commons-l 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why should we Commons contributors participate in a discussion on Facebook, a 
corporation that has generated great wealth for its founder by distributing 
advertising that includes democracy-destroying and hate-filled propaganda? It 
is antithetical to the principles of most of our participants. I’m profoundly 
disappointed that a discussion on Facebook would be promoted by the office of 
GLAM and Structured Data, Wikimedia Foundation.

Best wishes,
Walter

> On Oct 31, 2018, at 6:41 AM, Gnangarra via Commons-l 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> I too dislike the idea of having to pay to contribute to a discussion about 
> Wikimedia Commons.  I also see some irony in advice from a platform that 
> being generous can be described as having lost its way many years ago, yes we 
> can learn from the mistakes of others. As others have said collectively we 
> are capable of amazing things, we are doing something special as we look 
> forward we mustn't lose sight what our purpose is and our goals are.
>
> Dont forget https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data will 
> have impact so much of what is spoken about wont be relevant
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 21:15, Iván Hernández Cazorla via Commons-l 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> On 31/10/18 13:08, Federico Leva (Nemo) via Commons-l wrote:
> > Sandra Fauconnier via Commons-l, 31/10/2018 10:58:
> >> Medium, where you can leave comments:
> >
> > It's truly terrible if we're now outsourcing comments to an external
> > proprietary platform.
>
> Totally agree with both of you, Federico and Fae.
>
> I don't understand the outsourcing of comments nor the promotion from
> the Wikimedia Foundation of services as Facebook.
>
> Regards,
> Iván
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